Where can I find a list of photoradar intersections in O.C. (San Diego: photo radar, city hall)

[mikeaholmiranda]

Anyone have info?

[OtherHand]

Originally Posted by mikeaholmiranda

Anyone have info?

There are zero "photoradar intersections" in OC. Photo radar has to do with speed violations. Now if you mean "red light cameras" there are a number of them. The link below is a map of them. I don't know how accurate it is.


Orange County, California Red Light Cameras Map

[wrcousert]

Originally Posted by mikeaholmiranda

Anyone have info?

Want a guaranteed way to avoid ever getting a ticket? Buy a bus pass.

[EscapeCalifornia]

Santa Ana is full of them. Costa Mesa just removed theirs.

[chispito]

Originally Posted by wrcousert

Want a guaranteed way to avoid ever getting a ticket? Buy a bus pass.

In Orange County, that's also a guaranteed way to double or triple your travel time, unless you can get by with one or no transfers.

[robbybee]

If you want to locate red light cameras, just continue to run red lights - they will find you!

[mikeaholmiranda]

Thanks to the people who responded in a constructive way.

To the others, your assumptions are wrong

[recycled]

It is a valid topic to ask about, especially if driving in an area that you might not be real familiar with. Some cities in many parts of the US have set up red light cameras as city hall money machines. In many cases, the city shares revenue from each ticket with a private company that sets up the cameras "on loan" to a city. More tickets mean more money for the city and the private camera company. Certain intersections are used where the traffic light timers are tweeked, where the average time that it takes for a car to clear the intersection is longer than what they set the yellow light interval for. This trick is most effective on left turn arrows. Even if a car enters an intersection just as a left turn arrow turns yellow, they don't have enough time to get out of the intersection before the red light comes on and activates the ticket camera. Along comes a big money ticket in the mail.

Red light cameras that are manipulated as money traps are municipal fraud at it's worst. I have been a victim of one before, at a location that I found out here on CD was a known ticket trap in Tucson AZ. A non-local victim of this fraud does not have the ability to fight it. Who would want to or be able to fight a bogus ticket in court at a location far from home? To me, it was not the money I had to pay as much as I knew that it was fraud. That was the one and only moving vehicle violation that I have received in the past 20 years or so.

[OtherHand]

Originally Posted by recycled

It is a valid topic to ask about, especially if driving in an area that you might not be real familiar with. Some cities in many parts of the US have set up red light cameras as city hall money machines. In many cases, the city shares revenue from each ticket with a private company that sets up the cameras "on loan" to a city. More tickets mean more money for the city and the private camera company. Certain intersections are used where the traffic light timers are tweeked, where the average time that it takes for a car to clear the intersection is longer than what they set the yellow light interval for. This trick is most effective on left turn arrows. Even if a car enters an intersection just as a left turn arrow turns yellow, they don't have enough time to get out of the intersection before the red light comes on and activates the ticket camera. Along comes a big money ticket in the mail.

None of what you say is valid in the state of California, and especially Orange County, which the poster inquired about. It is illegal in California for the operator of a red light camera installation to share in ticket revenue. They have to be paid a flat rental rate or via some means that is independent of the number of violations. A municipality will only make money if the number of violations exceeds the rental rate AFTER the state and courts take their share. In California it is seldom a money maker for municipalities.

And the description of a vehicle entering an intersection is incorrect. In California it is legal to enter an intersection on a yellow light. It is not legal to enter when a light is red. The yellow light merely serves as a warning a red light is about to appear. This is the law.

Red light cameras are set up to detect vehicles entering the intersection AFTER the signal indication has turned red. This is done either by a wire loop in the intersection, well beyond the crosswalk, or a special video camera that can detect a vehicle's position.

Finally, the minimum length of a yellow light is set according to Caltrans standards. It can be longer, but not shorter. Because of huge liability issues, municipalities are VERY careful about making sure yellow lights are at least at the minimums. San Diego ended up having to toss out a lot of red light camera tickets a few years ago because they made a stupid misinterpretation of the Caltrans standard on how to set yellow lights and they were slightly short. All the cities in the state hurried to check theirs after that, as did every city in Orange County. As you may have surmised, this is something I have more than passing knowledge of.

[ferretkona]

Originally Posted by recycled

It is a valid topic to ask about, especially if driving in an area that you might not be real familiar with. ,,, .

For decades, when I drive in a un-familiar area. I slow the hell down. Always works, no tickets!