Why can't you pump your own gas in Oregon? (Portland: job market, neighborhoods)

[ccjarider]

Originally Posted by pdxMIKEpdx

The problem with that is the state would probably use the money for anything but that.

At least we know where the money is going now.

OK fine - don't increase the tax. Let me keep more of my $. I'm good with that too.

[PNW-type-gal]

Originally Posted by KaaBoom

Right now in the area where I usually fill up my gas, there is an ARCO station selling gas for 4¢ a gallon less then Fred Meyer ($2.37 vs $2.41). I don’t know what those stupid reward points they are always trying to get me to sign up for, would get me, but I seriously doubt they would save me more then 4¢ a gallon.

Since I do most of my regular grocery shopping at Fred's (and would without the rewards card), those reward points got me $1 a gallon off each gallon last tank fill. I dunno about you, but I think that is a pretty substantial discount.

[pnwguy2]

Originally Posted by ccjarider

You are missing the point, as is Larry Caldwell and his phony big oil monopoly argument.
Oregon prices are a little cheaper because of a lower state tax, that's it.

Oregon should eliminate mandated Non-value-add gas pumpers and then raise the state gas tax to generate the revenue this state claims it needs so bad. This would be a win-win for citizens and state coffers.


You can safely assume you are paying about 7-10 cents per gal to the dude/dudette filling your tank.
Assumptions:
$12/hr. mandated min wage
10 cars filled/hr.
20 gal/car. (200 gal/hr)
This equals 1200/200 = .06 cents plus 30% overhead and payroll tax; means we pay 7-10 cents gal for this "privilege."

You can play with my assumptions but the point is that these people ARE additional cost. We all pay this and for those of us who feel it is Non value add; it is wasted $.

I would rather see state spend it on roads as tax $.

Totally agree with this. I am willing to pay a little more in Washington because I know my tax portion is going for transportation projects. Yes, the average motorist doesn't know exactly where it is going, but by law, gas taxes in Washington must go to transportation.

At the risk of being repetitive, I am not happy about paying minimum wage employees in a state that I don't live in, and am not happy to have to wait for an attendant when I do have occasion to buy gas in Oregon. These so-called 10,000 employees that would be put out of work, (though many could transition into the C-Store in many cases) should be able to find other work in a growing State like Oregon. Just IMO.

[McFrostyJ]

Originally Posted by pnwguy2

At the risk of being repetitive, I am not happy about paying minimum wage employees in a state that I don't live in, and am not happy to have to wait for an attendant when I do have occasion to buy gas in Oregon.

When in Washington State I am never happy that I have to get out of my car. Go in to give my cash to the cashier. Go back out in the cold, dark, wet weather to pump my gas and then go back in to get my change. Nope, it never makes me happy to have to do more work myself, get less service and for that joyous privilege, it takes more of my time and I have to pay more for gas.
However, I do not live in Washington State and even though I make many trips up there to visit family, I do not I feel I have the right to tell people who do live there how to live.

[pnwguy2]

Originally Posted by McFrostyJ

When in Washington State I am never happy that I have to get out of my car. Go in to give my cash to the cashier. Go back out in the cold, dark, wet weather to pump my gas and then go back in to get my change. Nope, it never makes me happy to have to do more work myself, get less service and for that joyous privilege, it takes more of my time and I have to pay more for gas.
However, I do not live in Washington State and even though I make many trips up there to visit family, I do not I feel I have the right to tell people who do live there how to live.

If you have a debit or credit card you can avoid most of what you describe. But thanks for your enhanced description of the "cold, dark, wet" weather, which last time I checked also exists in The Beaver State, plus the imperialist values you place on States.

[wolfdog]

Do the non-ethanol fuels have detergent additives?

[Larry Caldwell]

Originally Posted by ccjarider

You are missing the point, as is Larry Caldwell and his phony big oil monopoly argument.
Oregon prices are a little cheaper because of a lower state tax, that's it.

Oregon should eliminate mandated Non-value-add gas pumpers and then raise the state gas tax to generate the revenue this state claims it needs so bad. This would be a win-win for citizens and state coffers.


You can safely assume you are paying about 7-10 cents per gal to the dude/dudette filling your tank.
Assumptions:
$12/hr. mandated min wage
10 cars filled/hr.
20 gal/car. (200 gal/hr)
This equals 1200/200 = .06 cents plus 30% overhead and payroll tax; means we pay 7-10 cents gal for this "privilege."

You can play with my assumptions but the point is that these people ARE additional cost. We all pay this and for those of us who feel it is Non value add; it is wasted $.

I would rather see state spend it on roads as tax $.

Oregon already raised the gas tax. If you actually lived here you would know that.

[ccjarider]

Originally Posted by Larry Caldwell

Oregon already raised the gas tax. If you actually lived here you would know that.

What does that have to do with price of tea in China Larry?
This is a hypothetical argument regarding future state, not past.

[pnwguy2]

And one could argue that a higher gas tax helps overall transportation, if indeed Oregon treats its gas tax like Washington does.
I'm surprised that Oregon's gas tax is about 14 cents per gallon less than Washington's, despite a recent increase?

Oregon also fails to cash in on tourist general sales tax from hundreds of thousands of tourists who travel through the State every year. But I guess that is another thread.

[KaaBoom]

Originally Posted by pnwguy2

And one could argue that a higher gas tax helps overall transportation, if indeed Oregon treats its gas tax like Washington does.
I'm surprised that Oregon's gas tax is about 14 cents per gallon less than Washington's, despite a recent increase?

Oregon also fails to cash in on tourist general sales tax from hundreds of thousands of tourists who travel through the State every year. But I guess that is another thread.

I believe they cash in on tourists with the Oregon state lodging tax, in addition to the gas tax, and some other taxes too.