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Old 04-09-2017, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Portland OR
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Originally Posted by pdxMIKEpdx View Post
So................we don't have uncontrolled growth and we do have the UGB , and our entire state hasn't become ruined with uncontrolled growth and hasn't been paved over.

And, yet people find Oregon so attractive that they want to move here in droves to eliminate the UGB and let uncontrolled growth ruin Oregon.

Yeah, that's frustrating and humorous all right!
THAT'S THE REAL ASS-HATTERY.

Tell you what, keep all that uncontrolled growth crap in Portland and leave the rest of the state alone will ya?

People are Not moving to Oregon in "droves". Stop the silliness.
What statistics show is that a small population state (Oregon) is gaining people at a greater % when compared to current population, than most others.

Hardly evidence of "droves" or uncontrolled growth. Such melodrama.

Further how would say 200 more people in the rural county you live possibly matter to you one way or the other?? You still got yours. Maybe 5 additional cars a day going down your rural road?

Sorry dude - they eventually will come - open the door and make some $.
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Old 04-09-2017, 07:53 PM
 
Location: WA Desert, Seattle native
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Can't speak for specific counties, but overall here are the population increases in Oregon and Washington from 2010-2016:

Oregon: 6.9%
Washington: 8.4%

So, both States are growing in droves. However, I would caution that with these percentages, WA will have gained millions over Oregon based on the existing population. Not necessarily a good thing for Washington, but these are the stats. Washington is expected to be close to 9 million by 2030.

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Old 04-09-2017, 08:22 PM
 
Location: 78745
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I always thought Oregon was a state that didn't want any newcomers moving to their state. Back in the 70's or 80's I remember hearing that at the state line entering Oregon there was a sign that welcomed visitors to Oregon but please don't move there, or something to that effect. I don't know if that's really true or not but that's what the word was around the country about Oregon 30 or 40 years ago. I'm always surprised when the Oregon population continues to increase.
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Old 04-09-2017, 08:31 PM
 
Location: WA Desert, Seattle native
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I always thought Oregon was a state that didn't want any newcomers moving to their state. Back in the 70's or 80's I remember hearing that at the state line entering Oregon there was a sign that welcomed visitors to Oregon but please don't move there, or something to that effect. I don't know if that's really true or not but that's what the word was around the country about Oregon 30 or 40 years ago. I'm always surprised when the Oregon population continues to increase.
Oregon has had an anti-growth attitude since this Gov. Tom McCall quote in the early 70's:

http://www.nytimes.com/1973/05/07/ar...cism.html?_r=0

Some say that his proclamation reduced growth, but in reality not really. But it still exists as an underlying attitude today.
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Old 04-10-2017, 08:44 PM
 
Location: 78745
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Oregon has had an anti-growth attitude since this Gov. Tom McCall quote in the early 70's:

http://www.nytimes.com/1973/05/07/ar...cism.html?_r=0

Some say that his proclamation reduced growth, but in reality not really. But it still exists as an underlying attitude today.
Thank you for posting that link. That's why I never considered Oregon as a place for me to move to, back when I was young and looking around for a state I thought I might like to live in.
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Old 04-10-2017, 09:39 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
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........... I'm always surprised when the Oregon population continues to increase.
That's because no one cares whether they are welcome or not. An amazingly large number of them think it doesn't apply to them personally, anyway.
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Old 04-10-2017, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Oregon, formerly Texas
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I don't get it either, but people seem to love to move to places and then try and change it to more like the place they were escaping from. If you hate UGBs, the solution is so simple. LA is over 34,000 square miles of of uncontrolled growth. Less than 2% of it is still undeveloped, and the weather is a lot better. It should be a dream location for the anti-UGB people. But I suspect they don't really want to live in that environment. They just want to come to Oregon, ruin this state with their development, and then move on to the next place to destroy.
Or Houston. Lots of jobs there too. PLENTY. Weather not as nice as LA but cheap housing is available far as the eye can see.
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Old 04-11-2017, 02:39 AM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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Thank you for posting that link. That's why I never considered Oregon as a place for me to move to, back when I was young and looking around for a state I thought I might like to live in.
It's good to know that sometimes it works. Thanks for living somewhere else.
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Old 04-11-2017, 04:42 AM
 
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Most of us who were born and raised in Oregon are quite familiar with having to move to another state for work. If we haven't experienced that ourselves, we know someone (family, friends, neighbors) who has. People were leaving Oregon just a few short years ago because there was no work here.
I had to leave PA for work 30 years ago after I graduated from college. The grads are STILL having to relocate. That's what happens when you don't want anything to change and your population ages. At least Pittsburgh has improved and innovated but one city doesn't define or carry a state, such as ...
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Old 04-11-2017, 05:11 AM
 
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I don't get it either, but people seem to love to move to places and then try and change it to more like the place they were escaping from. If you hate UGBs, the solution is so simple. LA is over 34,000 square miles of of uncontrolled growth. Less than 2% of it is still undeveloped, and the weather is a lot better. It should be a dream location for the anti-UGB people. But I suspect they don't really want to live in that environment. They just want to come to Oregon, ruin this state with their development, and then move on to the next place to destroy.
It's more like newcomers such as myself appreciating the state y'all purport to love, NOT trying to change anything, and, in fact, living happily in a part of the state many of you seem to find inferior and would never live anyway, while we still deal with your derision here. I haven't encountered it in RL.

Sorry that Portlandia is overcrowded and overpriced but I don't live anywhere near there. Not my fault or problem. Haven't visited it yet, either, not even the airport. I use SFO and take the train. For a state this physical size, however, that Portland is the largest and only major metro in the state really indicates that Oregon is far from over-developed, over-populated, and becoming a concrete jungle. So whether the rhetoric is hyperbole or asshattery, the impression it leaves is more or less the same.
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