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Old 11-09-2011, 06:05 PM
 
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Media whores?
Your post made me chuckle.

I've wondered if this 20th baby had anything to do with the Kardashian wedding?

You know ? Like...

"JimBob! Our ratings are slipping!!! Do me!!! Quick!!!"

Because, at the end of the day this is about "reality" (LOL) TV. And ratings and money money money. Cha-ching.

At least the Kardashians have good haircuts and clothes that fit.
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Old 11-09-2011, 06:48 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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Wonder if their oldest boy and his wife are going to follow in their footsteps and have as many children as possible?
They've already had one, maybe two, and I saw in an interview where they said, yes, they are going to continue the Duggar business.......er, I mean tradition.

You know how they've done these studies about how many offspring one unspayed cat can be responsible for? If that cat has two litters a year and each of those babies, also unspayed or neutered, have however many babies, and on and on? I wonder if anyone has ever done a similar study for the Duggars? Twenty kids, each having twenty kids, and those each having twenty kids..... Holy moly!
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Old 11-09-2011, 06:50 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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Sadly, I think that the Duggars have wrapped their whole persona in having kids. At this point, I almost think it is a pathology.
This.
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Old 11-09-2011, 07:31 PM
 
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The girls help out with feeding, bathings, schooling, etc. I'm sure they clean toilets and dust, too. They boys also mow the lawn, cut down trees, etc. Its called responsibility. They don't do it all the time, there are 20 of them, they all chip in. I've seen that they rotate responsibilities, like one is responsible for the kids wardrobe room. So if they are short on socks or pants, she is responsible for buying some. The other one would be responsible for the pantry, making sure if there is a sale on flour, or whatever, she stocks up. I think that's wonderful to teach responsibility and delagation, and she's doing a great job.
Teaching responsibility is one thing, but turning the older girls into teen moms is wrong. I'm all for chores, but I've watched and read enough about this family to know that the girls are responsible for the meals and laundry. Does Michelle ever cook or do any housework? Obviously she taught the older daughters to cook, but now the job has been passed onto them.
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Old 11-09-2011, 08:09 PM
 
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I agree^^. There is a difference between taking care of a little sister or brother for a bit, and being responsible for taking care of kids all the time. Michelle is either down sick pregnant or nursing. The bulk of the work in that house is on the other kids. Those kids can't go to school, or get jobs, they are needed at home. They don't get their own lives, they are living their parents lives. Even the oldest son, Josh (?), he is running his Father's business. It is interesting. I think they are kept so busy, they they don't think about what they want, or could even do with their lives.

As a parent, I was always encouraging my kids to try new things, see the world, ON THEIR OWN, not as a family unit. There is the family, but also the individual. And while the Duggars allow their kids to do things, it is always as a family. No one is encouraged to get out, and spread their wings. Seems very strange to me. But, again, those kids can't leave, who would take care of everything?! Mama is too busy birthing babies.
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Old 11-09-2011, 08:23 PM
 
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I roundly object to the name Jinger. It looks like it should rhyme with singer.

I don't see the point in the Duggars' continuing to have children when 1) they already have so many, 2) they are increasing the odds of having a child with Downs or other disability, and 3) it's very easy not to have any more babies. At this point I feel like they are gambling on their baby's health, particularly when the last one was premature. What if this one is also premature and develops cerebral palsy or other debilitating disorder--or dies?
Then I guess that they will deal with the challenges of a child with such disorders, or the death of an infant, like any other parents. Thankfully, they have a very good support system built in.
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Old 11-09-2011, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Arkansas
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I agree^^. There is a difference between taking care of a little sister or brother for a bit, and being responsible for taking care of kids all the time. Michelle is either down sick pregnant or nursing. The bulk of the work in that house is on the other kids. Those kids can't go to school, or get jobs, they are needed at home. They don't get their own lives, they are living their parents lives. Even the oldest son, Josh (?), he is running his Father's business. It is interesting. I think they are kept so busy, they they don't think about what they want, or could even do with their lives.

As a parent, I was always encouraging my kids to try new things, see the world, ON THEIR OWN, not as a family unit. There is the family, but also the individual. And while the Duggars allow their kids to do things, it is always as a family. No one is encouraged to get out, and spread their wings. Seems very strange to me. But, again, those kids can't leave, who would take care of everything?! Mama is too busy birthing babies.

The older kids are not even home most of the time, so please tell me how they can be doing all the work. Here is yet another example of only seeing a show and assuming that is how their life is 100% of the time.
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Old 11-09-2011, 08:33 PM
 
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Then, perhaps the show should focus on how the other children are moving on with their lives.
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Old 11-09-2011, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Eastern time zone
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My TV has around 300 channels, how many does yours have?
Apparently, you have more choices amongst attention whores than I do.
If I am to assume your point is that I have the opportunity to change the channel (or better yet, turn it off, since that button works too), that is correct. I have that right, and that ability. But when someone chooses to put their personal business on "reality television", they choose the whole package. Jim-Bob and Michelle don't get to only take the parts they like: the free air time for proselytizing, the free home improvements, the celebrity and the money. They get the parts where people debate their choices on open forums, the parts where they're roundly criticized, the vagina-as-clown-car LOLcat cartoons, too. Personally, I wouldn't choose to drag my life through the mud like that. More to the point, I wouldn't expose my kids to that kind of experience, even if it did catapult me into the much-vaunted "higher SES" category. In that respect, I would throw the Duggars in with those other parents of the year candidates, Jon & Kate Gosselin, the Toddlers & Tiaras moms, and the Kardashians.
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Old 11-09-2011, 08:51 PM
 
Location: The Hall of Justice
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How is it selfish for someone to chose to have 20 children or for someone to chose to not have any children? It's not. It's a choice that each person/couple makes based on their own set of beliefs, goals etc. There is no right or wrong here. Just because its wrong for you or me does not make it wrong for everyone. As I have stated a couple of times Michelle had the SAME issue with her second pregnancy (Jana and John David) she then went on to have many healthy pregnancies afterward before having any issues again. Heck she could go on to have 10 (used as an example) more pregnancies and may not see complications again, or should could have complications with this pregnancy (I hope not). Fact is we do not know what will happen at any time.

People have complications with the first pregnancy does that mean that they too should never have another child again even if they are cleared by a doctor??
I know you have said you are related, and I understand trying to protect your family. But complications from Michelle's second pregnancy seem irrelevant to me. That was something like 20 years ago. Almost 20 babies ago. She's at an age where the baby is much more at risk. And I don't buy the "It's God's will" defense. If it's okay to allow your premature baby to be rescued by modern medicine because God made doctors and NICUs, then you can listen to the doctors who warn women about having babies in their late 40s.
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