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Old 06-02-2012, 08:54 AM
 
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Are you kidding me? The average age a child is exposed to hardcore pornography is between age 8-11 now. It's not just naked photos as in playboy in the 50s. It's hardcore, explicit sex acts. There is also research to support that early and frequent exposure to this sort of pornography affects brain function and really causes psychological damage. Protect your sons and daughters from learning that women are disposable sex specimens. Don't let them become jaded adults that can't achieve relationships with actual women because their bodies aren't perfect and don't perform the way porn stars do. Pornography is harmful and if you feel your 12 year old MUST have a smartphone or Internet device then protect it somehow
This is the main problem, studies are in the works with 18-24 year olds at the moment studying the effect of being exposed at such a young age.

I can assure that "hooking up" aka having sex with NO intention of a real relationship has been exploding in the last 10 years, facebook, hard core porn etc have all contributed to our kids not having self respect for their bodies and what they do with them.

 
Old 06-02-2012, 09:00 AM
 
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Uhm a large study in 2006 found that for all children the median age of first exposure was nearly 15.

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Compared to the 16 or so years old median age most boys saw pornography such as playboy in pre Internet 1986. It doesn't seen like that big a difference.
While that is a study and does seem to have some good info, there will always be factors - geographic location for example - that will change results, I can tell you that this one study is the first one I've seen that says it's 15.

All of the world kids are exposed earlier and earlier to questionable at best material and then they mimic it. Sites like chatroulette etc really have not helped things.

In the end self worth and value fall off a cliff with some of our girls and boys. There's numerous stories of how it effects kids when they are passed around the internet.
 
Old 06-02-2012, 09:57 AM
 
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This is the main problem, studies are in the works with 18-24 year olds at the moment studying the effect of being exposed at such a young age.

I can assure that "hooking up" aka having sex with NO intention of a real relationship has been exploding in the last 10 years, facebook, hard core porn etc have all contributed to our kids not having self respect for their bodies and what they do with them.
2006 is six years ago now. It's getting worse.

"Most people probably don't picture kids when they think about who's viewing pornography. But according to statistics cited by the non-profit advocacy organization Enough Is Enough, the largest group of viewers of Internet pornography is children between the ages of 12 and 17."
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What parents need to know about porn and their kids (OneNewsNow.com)

A scary story about a young boy growing up with porn: Too Much of a Bad Thing: Internet Lures Kids into Porn Addiction - Page 1 - News - Dallas - Dallas Observer

More info on the addictiveness of porn and the negative effects: Get The Facts | Fight The New Drug

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Old 06-02-2012, 10:22 AM
 
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Why does everyone assume if you give a young teen a smart phone that they'll access things they shouldnt?

You can set filters on their phones that ****'s out swear words in texts and such.
You can set internet filters through your account that they can't change from their phone.

There is so much you CAN do but giving your kids freedoms requires active parenting and that's just way too hard.

My point was you all are equating having a smart phone to have endless amounts of porn accessible on it, completely ignoring the fact that you could get your kid a smart phone and set down the same restrictions on it as a computer and block those things.

My point was instead of telling your kid no you can't have it you might do something bad, let them have it, let them have fun but set down the restrictions on the phone like you would the family computer and voila problem solved.

If you're so tech savvy a captain of the SS internet security then you should know this.
You can set internet filters on phones FROM the account, so not on the device itself where maybe the kid could by pass it.
You can do a lot of stuff to regulate a smart phone for a younger teen and usually at no additional cost, usually it only cost money to track your child.

Instead you all just want to say no out of fear, instead of leaning about your account, learning out the device, and making it safe and fun for your child.

Since the internet is so full of crap, do you tell your child no internet all together, no facebook etc? No you put down restrictions and such on the computer and make it hard for them to access stuff you don't want them to see. Why not do the same for the phone so they can facebook and browse appropriate sites from it?

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Old 06-02-2012, 10:31 AM
 
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Why does everyone assume if you give a young teen a smart phone that they'll access things they shouldnt?

You can set filters on their phones that ****'s out swear words in texts and such.
You can set internet filters through your account that they can't change from their phone.

There is so much you CAN do but giving your kids freedoms requires active parenting and that's just way too hard.
Well finally we agree. That's the main point of this post - instagram is not for kids and I'm hoping that parents here will take a look at the smart phones their kids have and maintain control over it.

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My point was instead of telling your kid no you can't have it you might do something bad, let them have it, let them have fun but set down the restrictions on the phone like you would the family computer and voila problem solved.

If you're so tech savvy a captain of the SS internet security then you should know this.
You can set internet filters on phones FROM the account, so not on the device itself where maybe the kid could by pass it.
You can do a lot of stuff to regulate a smart phone for a younger teen and usually at no additional cost, usually it only cost money to track your child.

Instead you all just want to say no out of fear, instead of leaning about your account, learning out the device, and making it safe and fun for your child.

Since the internet is so full of crap, do you tell your child no internet all together, no facebook etc? No you put down restrictions and such on the computer and make it hard for them to access stuff you don't want them to see. Why not do the same for the phone so they can facebook and browse appropriate sites from it?
There is no appropriate need for instagram for a kid, it's against the terms of service and parents who allow it are opening up their kid to a world of hurt.

It's almost like this website was setup for stalkers. There's another app called http://instalookapp.com/ that's gaining popularity. It will search your area for anything posted around you.

Also, you can go to http://www.gramfeed.com and search by anything "girl" "swimming" "summer camp" etc.. some of them will pull the gps locations of where the pictures were taken.

I'm not sitting here saying "keep your kids inside" I'm saying "Keep your pride and joy kid safe and stop them from posting pictures on the internet of themselves because there are dark people out there searching for them who wouldn't ever run into them in public. You don't want to be the lucky parent in that .02% group with a kidnapped kid who never comes home, because you didn't keep them off of social media sites."

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Old 06-02-2012, 10:54 AM
 
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Why does everyone assume if you give a young teen a smart phone that they'll access things they shouldnt?

You can set filters on their phones that ****'s out swear words in texts and such.
You can set internet filters through your account that they can't change from their phone.

There is so much you CAN do but giving your kids freedoms requires active parenting and that's just way too hard.
Well, phones that are on a 3G network may be able to access things outside of blocks on your internet service. That's something to be aware of. I haven't really looked into that yet because my kids aren't old enough.

however, I agree with your premise. You can give your children phones and stuff if you choose, but be aware that kids are technologically savy and can work around preventative measures if they choose. There's nothing you can do to keep them away from a friend's smartphone with porn. Just be mindful that these "innocent" little devices can host a huge amount of trouble. It's scary to me as a parent of young boys that are inevitably going to be interested in getting to this stuff.

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Old 06-02-2012, 11:05 AM
 
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There is no appropriate need for instagram for a kid, it's against the terms of service and parents who allow it are opening up their kid to a world of hurt.

It's almost like this website was setup for stalkers. There's another app called Instalook App | Discover People and Photos around you in realtime that's gaining popularity. It will search your area for anything posted around you.

Also, you can go to Instagram Photo Feed on the Web - Gramfeed and search by anything "girl" "swimming" "summer camp" etc.. some of them will pull the gps locations of where the pictures were taken.

I'm not sitting here saying "keep your kids inside" I'm saying "Keep your pride and joy kid safe and stop them from posting pictures on the internet of themselves because there are dark people out there searching for them who wouldn't ever run into them in public. You don't want to be the lucky parent in that .02% group with a kidnapped kid who never comes home, because you didn't keep them off of social media sites."
I read somewhere in this thread that instagram HAS security settings but they aren't automatically turned on.
Instead of keeping the kids off of social media sites why not just teach them how to apply security settings?
 
Old 06-02-2012, 11:10 AM
 
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I read somewhere in this thread that instagram HAS security settings but they aren't automatically turned on.
Instead of keeping the kids off of social media sites why not just teach them how to apply security settings?
Because the terms of service say 13 for a reason. Also, even after you enable the privacy settings, you have to go and block everyone who is already following you. Lastly, it doesn't stop the kid from being able to search and see people doing things that a kid shouldn't see (drugs, drinking and driving, sexual things, cutting, underage driking, etc).

I'm actually in the thick of it right now with an 11 year old family member and her friends. It took ONE parent in this circle of friends (7 kids) to give her kid an iphone 4 and it's been hell ever since with this kid and technology.
 
Old 06-02-2012, 11:11 AM
 
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Well, phones that are on a 3G network may be able to access things outside of blocks on your internet service. That's something to be aware of. I haven't really looked into that yet because my kids aren't old enough.

however, I agree with your premise. You can give your children phones and stuff if you choose, but be aware that kids are technologically savy and can work around preventative measures if they choose. There's nothing you can do to keep them away from a friend's smartphone with porn. Just be mindful that these "innocent" little devices can host a huge amount of trouble. It's scary to me as a parent of young boys that are inevitably going to be interested in getting to this stuff.



See its stuff like this that pisses me off.
Not everyone knows about smartphones but PLEASE educate yourself.

3G smartphones and even 4G do not run off of your homes internet UNLESS you connect them via your WIFI.

ALL smart phones require a data plan aka internet package.
Say you have verizon, you can log into my verizon or even call them and ask them to put restrictions on what your kids can and can't access from their phones internet.

It's simple easy and putting the restrictions on is free.
You can filter out what is accessible to your tween/teens smart phone through your cell phone provider.
 
Old 06-02-2012, 11:15 AM
 
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Because the terms of service say 13 for a reason. Also, even after you enable the privacy settings, you have to go and block everyone who is already following you. Lastly, it doesn't stop the kid from being able to search and see people doing things that a kid shouldn't see (drugs, drinking and driving, sexual things, cutting, underage driking, etc).

I'm actually in the thick of it right now with an 11 year old family member and her friends. It took ONE parent in this circle of friends (7 kids) to give her kid an iphone 4 and it's been hell ever since with this kid and technology.
Because they probably never set down restrictions in the first place.
Before you even GIVE the child the phone you can put down restrictions on it, block certain things on the internet via your cell service provider, set time restrictions which disable certain features like calling or texting except to certain people during certain hours.

You also TALK with the child and make sure you set down clear boundaries and if they are broken don't hesitate to enforce them.

And how can you tell by a picture if people are underage drinking?
Many people look younger than they really are.
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