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Old 01-28-2015, 01:13 PM
 
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Shouldn't this be posted in the PA forum? Why is this in the Pittsburgh forum?
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Old 01-28-2015, 01:17 PM
 
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Shouldn't this be posted in the PA forum? Why is this in the Pittsburgh forum?
lol yeah that is good question.
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Old 01-28-2015, 02:12 PM
 
Location: The Flagship City and Vacation in the Paris of Appalachia
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Erie may be the 4th largest municipality... but that is a mostly meaningless designation. Erie is Pennsylvania's 9th largest metropolitan area. Its population of 280k ranks behind Reading (413k), York (435k), Lancaster (508k), Harrisburg (550k), Scranton (562k) and Allentown (827k).
Disagree, being the 4th largest city and 4th largest metropolitan area are different things altogether and both merit discussion and/or recognition.
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Old 01-28-2015, 03:22 PM
 
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Disagree, being the 4th largest city and 4th largest metropolitan area are different things altogether and both merit discussion and/or recognition.
Erie is just an over-bounded municipality compared to Eastern/Central PA cities. If they had the same boundaries (22 sq miles)... they'd have equal or greater population to Erie.

Erie is more in the class of Johnstown or Altoona than Harrisburg, Lancaster or Allentown.


Btw... this should be in the Pennsylvania forum... not the Pittsburgh forum. My argument is that Pennsylvania forum is adequate for Northwestern PA discussion.. as the region is the most lightly populated quadrant of the state.
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Old 01-28-2015, 03:41 PM
 
Location: The Flagship City and Vacation in the Paris of Appalachia
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Erie is just an over-bounded municipality compared to Eastern/Central PA cities. If they had the same boundaries (22 sq miles)... they'd have equal or greater population to Erie.

Erie is more in the class of Johnstown or Altoona than Harrisburg, Lancaster or Allentown.


Btw... this should be in the Pennsylvania forum... not the Pittsburgh forum. My argument is that Pennsylvania forum is adequate for Northwestern PA discussion.. as the region is the most lightly populated quadrant of the state.
Disagree again, and if redrawing boundaries is your argument, why not redraw the metropolitan boundaries for Erie to include the Jamestown, NY and Ashtabula, OH areas and increase the size of the metro area significantly? Erie may have larger city borders than the areas you are mentioning, but all of the areas you mentioned have much bigger boundaries for metro areas or take advantage of the overlap with NYC and Philadelphia. I think the only thing we agree on is that this thread should be in the PA forum and I am not actually sure we agree about this, because I think an Erie or Northwest PA forum could have at least as much activity as the Harrisburg forum.
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Old 01-28-2015, 03:55 PM
 
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City-Data is very selective about their new categories. I requested a South-Central PA category a while back, and the response was that there would have to be a dramatic increase in posts about the area to warrant it.
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Old 01-28-2015, 04:51 PM
 
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Disagree again, and if redrawing boundaries is your argument, why not redraw the metropolitan boundaries for Erie to include the Jamestown, NY and Ashtabula, OH areas and increase the size of the metro area significantly? Erie may have larger city borders than the areas you are mentioning, but all of the areas you mentioned have much bigger boundaries for metro areas or take advantage of the overlap with NYC and Philadelphia. I think the only thing we agree on is that this thread should be in the PA forum and I am not actually sure we agree about this, because I think an Erie or Northwest PA forum could have at least as much activity as the Harrisburg forum.
Untrue. Erie metro is one county. Reading metro is one county. York metro is one county. Lancaster metro is one county.
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Old 01-28-2015, 05:02 PM
 
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Untrue. Erie metro is one county. Reading metro is one county. York metro is one county. Lancaster metro is one county.
Definitely true, there is no way you can parse out the population that truly live in the Lancaster or Reading metros with the current boundaries and those who live in the Philadelphia exurbs because of the overlap. Also, when I mentioned metro in the previous post I was referring to CSA or Combined Statistical Area, which is a huge area for places like Allentown that overlap with NYC and for Erie it is a very small boundary that only goes south and stays in the same state rather than going east or west. I don't really understand what your problem is and your arguments are very, very weak.
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Old 01-28-2015, 05:06 PM
 
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Definitely true, there is no way you can parse out the population that truly live in the Lancaster or Reading metros with the current boundaries and those who live in the Philadelphia exurbs because of the overlap. Also, when I mentioned metro in the previous post I was referring to CSA or Combined Statistical Area, which is a huge area for places like Allentown that overlap with NYC and for Erie it is a very small boundary that only goes south and stays in the same state rather than going east or west. I don't really understand what your problem is and your arguments are very, very weak.
As Pennsylvania's 9th largest population center, Erie is adequately served by the general Pennsylvania forum.
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Old 01-28-2015, 05:12 PM
 
Location: The Flagship City and Vacation in the Paris of Appalachia
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As Pennsylvania's 9th largest population center, Erie is adequately served by the general Pennsylvania forum.
No, I still disagree and as Pennsylvania's 4th largest city, Erie deserves its own forum. Erie even has suburbs larger than Altoona and Harrisburg.

"Millcreek Township is a township in Erie County, Pennsylvania, United States. The population was 53,515 at the 2010 census. It is the largest suburb of Erie, Pennsylvania and the 14th-largest municipality in the state; larger than the cities of Altoona and Harrisburg."

Millcreek Township, Erie County, Pennsylvania - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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