Philadelphia neighborhoods: mapping the good and bad sections of town (Penn: 2014, construction jobs)

[ElijahAstin]

Originally Posted by DrOctagon

Maybe the wrong term for the whole neighborhood but exactly the right term for the people I dealt with. I know there's a lot of old money there too.

I'm being too harsh - I don't have anything against all of the nice people that live in Elkins Park (I know they're there, I just didn't deal with them a lot) or the neighborhood as a whole. There are annoying people everywhere, I know. That place just left a bad taste in my mouth and I wouldn't live there.

I work in Jenkintown now and hate it only marginally less. Lots of people love both places though so maybe I'm the weirdo.

Nouveau riche just doesn't apply to the demographic as a whole. There isn't all that much old money either (most of the "old" residents are Jews whose families initially acquired their upper middle class status in the '50s and '60s, which is still in new money territory). I'm not disputing the fact that you personally found the neighborhood residents annoying.

Old money and new money are simply terms of circumstance; "blueblood" and "nouveau riche" are terms properly applied to people from those circumstances who act like caricatures.

[DrOctagon]

"Nouveau riche" was the first thing that came to my head when I met a lot of people there. Caricatures? Maybe. Obviously I haven't seen their bank statements or their family tree so I can't really comment on whether it's appropriate.

[Cnote11]

Tons of not so bad Korean restaurants bordering Elkin's Park and H-Mart is one of the best grocers in Philadelphia, therefore Elkin's Park does not suck that much, in my opinion.

[ElijahAstin]

Originally Posted by Cnote11

Tons of not so bad Korean restaurants bordering Elkin's Park and H-Mart is one of the best grocers in Philadelphia, therefore Elkin's Park does not suck that much, in my opinion.

I have no beef with Elkins Park. It's not the "place to be" it once was, but it's held up pretty well overall. EP and Oak Lane both have great Korean restaurants, though the population is shifting over to the Blue Bell area, among other places.

[DrOctagon]

Originally Posted by Cnote11

Tons of not so bad Korean restaurants bordering Elkin's Park and H-Mart is one of the best grocers in Philadelphia, therefore Elkin's Park does not suck that much, in my opinion.

H-Mart is great. Is that technically in Elkin's Park though? Also, notice you said "bordering" for the not-so-bad Korean restaurants.

This isn't a thread about Elkin's Park. Someone asked a question and I gave my completely biased view of the neighborhood. My intention wasn't to derail the thread into a conversation about whether Elkin's Park does or does not suck.

[Cnote11]

Originally Posted by HeavenWood

I have no beef with Elkins Park. It's not the "place to be" it once was, but it's held up pretty well overall. EP and Oak Lane both have great Korean restaurants, though the population is shifting over to the Blue Bell area, among other places.

That is so very true. I've yet to make it out to the Blue Bell area, but it is on my list as I continue to explore the greater Philadelphia area over the years.

Originally Posted by DrOctagon

H-Mart is great. Is that technically in Elkin's Park though? Also, notice you said "bordering" for the not-so-bad Korean restaurants.

This isn't a thread about Elkin's Park. Someone asked a question and I gave my completely biased view of the neighborhood. My intention wasn't to derail the thread into a conversation about whether Elkin's Park does or does not suck.

Yeah, H-Mart is actually in Elkin's Park apparently. I actually had to google it before making that post! It BARELY is in there! Move it over to the other side of the intersection and BAM! No longer Elkin's Park. Honestly, I'm not very familiar with Elkin's and I've never really met the people who live there, so I can't really say anything about that part itself. I find it can be a rather peaceful place to walk around though. I don't think I'd ever care to live there though, so I'm with you on that front.

[Dannerd]

I live in Wissinoming which is considered in the river ward area of the lower NE - sorry this neighborhood is going down fast. We have lived in Wiss for 25 years and it was somewhat mixed mostly white when we moved in - now mostly black and hispanic, section 8, etc.

[MissFormaldehyde]

Originally Posted by Dannerd

I live in Wissinoming which is considered in the river ward area of the lower NE - sorry this neighborhood is going down fast. We have lived in Wiss for 25 years and it was somewhat mixed mostly white when we moved in - now mostly black and hispanic, section 8, etc.

Maybe your immediate area. This says otherwise.

http://www.city-data.com/neighborhoo...elphia-PA.html

[Snwmn5]

Originally Posted by MissFormaldehyde

Maybe your immediate area. This says otherwise.

http://www.city-data.com/neighborhoo...elphia-PA.html

Have you spent time in Wissinoming before?

That whole section has definitely gone downhill in terms of crime and on top of that got hit really hard with home values dropping.

[Leon2014]

Originally Posted by Snwmn5

Have you spent time in Wissinoming before?

That whole section has definitely gone downhill in terms of crime and on top of that got hit really hard with home values dropping.

Snwmn is right, the whole area even miles out has gone to hell. Penny Pack park is a few miles up from there, and it's not a park that I would recommend anyone who is above lower-middle class go to. It used to be a very nice park! Now the bottom section is surrounded by lower to lower-middle class.

Now the ground in the park is littered with small baggies, there are drugs, alchohol, black thugs, white working class thugs covered in tatoos and addicted to meth. Would not recommend!