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[2002 Subaru]

Originally Posted by kyb01

Really? So you see no reason to boot out one Boomer in particular from the WH?

Boot him out and replace him with who? Just because you (and many others) don't like him, it doesn't mean he has to go.

[kyb01]

Originally Posted by Pine to Vine

I wasn't posting as a result of any of your posts and I agree with your post above. Southbound_295 just caused me to reflect.

While I'm at it, however, boomers also launched the "gay rights" movement. Some of the first demonstrations in the country took place right in front of Independence Hall in 1965. The is an historical marker about those early protests catty corner from there now. And of course, the Stonewall riots were in 1969.

The 60s were an amazing decade. I was late to the party (born in 1955), but I was an early consumer of popular culture.

No, you're wrong. The Greatest Generation started the Gay Rights movement. Barbara Gittings, who was instrumental at the march at Independence Hall, was born in 1932. And Harvey Milk was not a Boomer either.

Most demographers state the Boomers years as starting in 1946 through 1964. And again many of us were not involved in the Stonewall riots. Although I turned 20 in 1969, most Boomers were still children since they were born in 1950s.

The thing that affected many, many gay Boomers and pushed many to activism was the AIDs crisis. Remember ACT-UP? That was the 80s.

[kyb01]

Originally Posted by 2002 Subaru

Boot him out and replace him with who? Just because you (and many others) don't like him, it doesn't mean he has to go.

Pence is VP. Paul Ryan is Speaker. Those are next people in line.

[kyb01]

Originally Posted by MarketStEl

I was a little later to the party, but the year of my birth, 1958, was the peak year for births in the Baby Boom, which demographers say began in 1946 and ended in 1964. (That's one helluva long generation.)

Yet whenever I hear talk of "Boomers," I feel they're always talking about someone older than I am.

Aren't generations generally defined as about 20 years in length?

Well, your last statement demonstrates just the problem I have with my own generation: denial about being old/ getting old. And too many Boomers can not face our own mortality.

[southbound_295]

Originally Posted by Pine to Vine

Yea, I always think that we boomers are not given enough credit for the progressive changes we made during our heyday. We saw the institution of the Civil Rights Act, which, among other things gave us the Affirmative Action Program aimed at eliminating workplace discrimination of women and people of color. Title IX equalized the investment in athletic programs for women and men. The EPA was established during the boomer age, as were the Clean Air and Clean Water Acts. Oh, lest some millennial think they invented Earth Day, the first of these occurred in 1970.

I get it that no generation gives a perfect world to the next one, but boomers did an ok job improving the one we inherited. The millennials will find themselves in the same predicament when their handoff comes. All this said, I am impressed with this new generation and very hopeful about the improvements they will make now that it's their world to shape.

I find it interesting that our parents were called "The Depression Kids" until Tom Brokaw's book. Then there's that small generation between that is still unnamed & ignored. We were originally called the post-war baby boom. The next generation was the baby bust, & then the boomlet. My nephew was born in the baby bust, but they're playing with dates & now they say that he's a millennial. Hes not like his sister, who was born in the boomlet. That part is all marketing crap. I recently saw the dates for boomers changed to end in 1965.

That said, the small, unnamed generation before us, frequently worked with us. Then there were some older people who saw the interest in younger people & used it. There's no way that we'll have a holiday for Bella Abzug's birthday, but she did a lot for women.

Politicians run the gamut from good, bad & indifferent. Millenials need to understand something that was passed down to us. You can't complain if you didn't vote. If you don't like the choices, get involved. Run, or find someone better who will run.

[kyb01]

Originally Posted by southbound_295

I find it interesting that our parents were called "The Depression Kids" until Tom Brokaw's book. Then there's that small generation between that is still unnamed & ignored. We were originally called the post-war baby boom. The next generation was the baby bust, & then the boomlet. My nephew was born in the baby bust, but they're playing with dates & now they say that he's a millennial. Hes not like his sister, who was born in the boomlet. That part is all marketing crap. I recently saw the dates for boomers changed to end in 1965.

That said, the small, unnamed generation before us, frequently worked with us. Then there were some older people who saw the interest in younger people & used it. There's no way that we'll have a holiday for Bella Abzug's birthday, but she did a lot for women.

Politicians run the gamut from good, bad & indifferent. Millenials need to understand something that was passed down to us. You can't complain if you didn't vote. If you don't like the choices, get involved. Run, or find someone better who will run.

The Silent Generation. It's a name I do not agree with at all. I mislabeled Barbara Gittings. She was part of this one. It's generally those who were born from the mid-1920s to 1945. How can one describe these people as "silent" when all the first great rock and roll people were born during those years, for instance?

[southbound_295]

Originally Posted by kyb01

The Silent Generation. It's a name I do not agree with at all. I mislabeled Barbara Gittings. She was part of this one. It's generally those who were born from the mid-1920s to 1945. How can one describe these people as "silent" when all the first great rock and roll people were born during those years, for instance?

My oldest cousin belongs to that generation & the youngest 2 are GenX. I've always heard that that generation ran from the early to mid 30s but were cut off by the baby boom at the end of WWII. My parents each had a brother born in that generation. Those uncles were definitely different from the generations before & after. My oldest cousin came at the end of that generation. He has more in common with my mother's youngest brother than his brothers & cousins. That's the generation that is rapidly becoming the old people/elderly. Boomers are now the older people.

[ElijahAstin]

Originally Posted by kyb01

Really? So you see no reason to boot out one Boomer in particular from the WH?

I don't see how you drew that conclusion from my statement, but okay.

[MarketStEl]

Originally Posted by kyb01

No, you're wrong. The Greatest Generation started the Gay Rights movement. Barbara Gittings, who was instrumental at the march at Independence Hall, was born in 1932. And Harvey Milk was not a Boomer either.

Most demographers state the Boomers years as starting in 1946 through 1964. And again many of us were not involved in the Stonewall riots. Although I turned 20 in 1969, most Boomers were still children since they were born in 1950s.

The thing that affected many, many gay Boomers and pushed many to activism was the AIDs crisis. Remember ACT-UP? That was the 80s.

Originally Posted by kyb01

Aren't generations generally defined as about 20 years in length?

Well, your last statement demonstrates just the problem I have with my own generation: denial about being old/ getting old. And too many Boomers can not face our own mortality.

Your comments in the first post are why I wrote that sentence.

I turned 11 in 1969. The people burning their draft cards on college campuses at that time, and the four who were killed at Kent State University the following year, were all around your age - and all Baby Boomers.

Gittings and the early pioneers of the "homophile movement" were indeed the Greatest Generation and born before 1946, as were some of those who rioted the night the cops made one raid too many on the Stonewall Inn. But the activists who marched in the streets of Greenwich Village the following year to mark the anniversary, and Mark Segal and the other founders of the Gay Activists Alliance weren't - they were all Boomers too (Segal was born in 1951).

I entered seventh grade in the fall of 1970. Same generation, but enough of a difference in age to have a totally different experience and set of memories. I missed the Vietnam War completely and was a beneficiary rather than a spark plug of the Gay Liberation movement.

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