Should Septa build a Northeast subway line (Philadelphia, Erie: city hall, transfer)

[sheila.e]

Philadelphia is expanding and revitalizing itself but with new changes in the city. Transportation should not be ignored.

Should Septa try to build a new subway line that goes as far to Bensalem.

[kidphilly]

PA-TEC - Roosevelt Boulevard Subway Extension

Transit for a Future Philadelphia « The Transport Politic

[FBJ]

That's one thing I never liked about northeast, if you don't have a car it's too far.

[wordlife]

on a side note, I have a question. was the ridge ave spur originally planned to travel throughout ridge ave?

[Marius Pontmercy]

Originally Posted by wordlife

on a side note, I have a question. was the ridge ave spur originally planned to travel throughout ridge ave?

No. However, it was supposed to continue west from where the current tunnel terminates under Locust and 18th Sts up 20th St to Arch, and from Arch St east back to the Broad St. trunk line creating a kind of downtown loop. Only the stretch down Ridge, 8th, and Locust was completed, along with a section under Arch St which doesn't connect with anything.

There were lots and lots of proposals for where the subway system should go floating around in the 20s. Most of it never got built, although a few things were incorporated into the current subways design that was intended for the future growth of the system. Beyond the half built downtown loop, which has been split in half between PATCO and the Ridge-Spur, a section of tunnel was built branching off at Erie Ave for the proposed NE extension, and space was left at Snyder Ave for the construction of a SW extension down Passyunk Ave.

Obviously, none of this is ever getting built. What you see is what you get as far as subways in Philadelphia go, probably for the next 50-75 years.

[JacksonPanther]

A former Philadelphian here, with some questions about trolley lines...

Looking at the transit map posted above, I see some things marked as LRT:

1. Line 23 is marked as "resume LRT service." This is the 23 trolley to Chestnut Hill? Was this stopped, or changed to a bus? Does this bus really go from Chestnut Hill to South Philly?

2. There is a Line 56 marked as Resume LRT service. Was this once a trolley route? I am not familiar with this line.

3. There is a City Branch marked as a branch off of the 15 trolley. What streets would this follow?

4. There is a solid green line in Jersey, it crosses PATCO and then heads up north - what is this?

[CourageMom]

Yes, send more trains.
... and more throughout PA..up to Scranton, and onto NYC

[FamousBlueRaincoat]

Originally Posted by JacksonPanther

4. There is a solid green line in Jersey, it crosses PATCO and then heads up north - what is this?

This is the Riverline Light Rail line run by NJ Transit. Camden to Trenton.

Also, the 23 is now a bus. And yes - Chestnut Hill to South Philly, I think Broad and Oregon. It's incredibly long.

[DarkWolf]

I put all the Septa , DRPA , NJT and City of Philly plans onto one map...and a few blogger proposals....

Urban SEPA / SNJ Rail / Transit Map - Google Maps

By 2025 according to the Septa / DRPA budgets , this is what should get built....

56 Trolley
23 Trolley
Waterfront Trolley
City Hall Station Improvements
Replacement of some of the Suburban and Urban trolleys with ADA low floor trolleys

For NJT in South Jersey

Pennsuaken Transfer Center
Glassboro line , with the possibility of the Millville line going up 2 years after the Glassboro line is completed...
28 Medium / large TOD projects are in the works along the Riverline and Glassboro line...

[Phillyboy9088]

Originally Posted by Marius Pontmercy

Obviously, none of this is ever getting built. What you see is what you get as far as subways in Philadelphia go, probably for the next 50-75 years.

True. I doubt you'll ever see the Broad St extended up the Blvd. Not much support for it in the Northeast.