Tourism in Philly (Philadelphia, Lancaster, Warren: apartment, loan, home)

[rainrock]

Originally Posted by southbound_295

Have you seen pictures of the Independence Hall area before Independence Hall was fixed up? That would tell you the value of Independence Mall. I hope that the city has a lock on that land & no one can ever build on it again.

Yes I have seen those photos. It was amazing its unfortunate everything was bulldozed instead of refurbished.

They should be building an 18th century faux colonial development on the vacant grass lot in question.Between Market/Arch 5th/6th. Try and envision a row of 4 story restaurants/bars there with you and your friends sharing a few drinks on a 3rd floor outdoor balcony overlooking a brightly lit Liberty Bell + Independence Hall. Now you're talking.

A grass lot? Not so much

[southbound_295]

Originally Posted by rainrock

Yes I have seen those photos. It was amazing its unfortunate everything was bulldozed instead of refurbished.

There should be building an 18th century faux colonial development on the vacant grass lot in question.Between Market/Arch 5th/6th. Try and envision a row of 4 story restaurants/bars there with you and your friends sharing a few drinks on a 3rd floor outdoor balcony overlooking a brightly lit Liberty Bell + Independence Hall. Now you're talking.

A grass lot? Not so much

I doubt that William Penn would agree with you.

Green Country Town | Encyclopedia of Greater Philadelphia

William Penn called it his “greene country towne”

Independence National Historical Park | Encyclopedia of Greater Philadelphia

On the first Earth Day, college students gathered at Independence Mall. It was one of the locations for protests of the Vietnam War.

[kyb01]

Originally Posted by southbound_295

Have you seen pictures of the Independence Hall area before Independence Hall was fixed up? That would tell you the value of Independence Mall. I hope that the city has a lock on that land & no one can ever build on it again.

Hmmm, how much of it is actually managed by the federal government? I honestly don't know.

[kyb01]

Originally Posted by rainrock

Yes I have seen those photos. It was amazing its unfortunate everything was bulldozed instead of refurbished.

They should be building an 18th century faux colonial development on the vacant grass lot in question.Between Market/Arch 5th/6th. Try and envision a row of 4 story restaurants/bars there with you and your friends sharing a few drinks on a 3rd floor outdoor balcony overlooking a brightly lit Liberty Bell + Independence Hall. Now you're talking.

A grass lot? Not so much

I actually agree with your point here. Just like old buildings could have been re-purposed along Market St further west. Instead we got the horrific Gallery "box".

[rainrock]

Originally Posted by kyb01

I actually agree with your point here.

Perhaps there is hope for you afterall.

[kyb01]

Originally Posted by rainrock

Perhaps there is hope for you afterall.

Hey, it's still Mother's Day. Maybe I'm feeling generous.

[pman]

Originally Posted by southbound_295

Have you seen pictures of the Independence Hall area before Independence Hall was fixed up? That would tell you the value of Independence Mall. I hope that the city has a lock on that land & no one can ever build on it again.

Yes it was far more interesting. Chestnut St across from independence mall was lined with bank buildings from the 19th c. Razing them for an idiotic grass lot with taxpayer money was ridiculous. Occasionally people circulate photos of old city from after the government began the process of emptying it out as a form of deceptive justification. Dock st market before urban renewal looked a pot like any old market and would likely be a huge to tourist draw today if they'd kept it.

[kyb01]

Originally Posted by pman

Yes it was far more interesting. Chestnut St across from independence mall was lined with bank buildings from the 19th c. Razing them for an idiotic grass lot with taxpayer money was ridiculous. Occasionally people circulate photos of old city from after the government began the process of emptying it out as a form of deceptive justification. Dock st market before urban renewal looked a pot like any old market and would likely be a huge to tourist draw today if they'd kept it.

Dock St was pretty awful, IMO. And remember, Society Hill was a ghetto.

Trying to second guess some of the decisions made a long time ago about these things doesn't really help. But, we can try to be more intelligent about what gets saved in the future.

[steeps]

Originally Posted by thedirtypirate

^should be banned.

Do you think Philly couldn't? Of shouldn't have such a Tourist attraction on its Waterfront? If so give SPACIFICS? Why not?

The THREAD ask for SUGGESTIONS Philly could do to get more TOURIST? I merely KNOW How SUCESSFUL, Navy Pier in. Chicago BECAME INSTANTLY. AND TOURIST FLOCK TO IT and it is REVENUE BONANZA..... It is like 15-20 years old and already being changed and remodeled, to keep variety and people continuing to go to it. It IS THE BIGGEST TOURIST VISITED SIGHT IN THE UPPER MIDWEST.

I MADE A SUGGESTION ON THE THREAD TOPIC? ABOUT.....BRINGING IN MORE TOURIST????

Sure it takes planning? City and local Developers? But you have a Pier type structure there, could be more....a good spot for access? Columbus Blvd. A ASSET THAT Again? I see could be PHILLY'S premier Riverfront Drive. For High-End housing and Riverfront attractions? Land available along the Blvd. And across from that location on Google streetview...I said I COULD SEE A PIER LIKE ATTRACTION, AMUSEMENT COMPLEX? UTILIZING THE RIVER IN SUMMER FOR BOAT RIDES FOR TOURIST, DINER CRUISES ON THE DELAWARE FROM THERE....ECT. You already have some Harbors there. Also, it's Right in the shadow of THE BEN FRANKLIN BRIDGE. LIGHT IT UP WITH COLOR AND SHOW IT OFF.

Maybe we should just keep talking a about or hoping some Retailer comes to a Mall in Center City? FOR ATTRACTING LOTS OF TOURIST??? You have plenty of Big Malls outside of Philly, and to Lancaster? Tourist DO NOT Need to go to Center City to a Mall? The Market Place is much more marketable to tourist, to me though.... as different.

Again what COMMENT OR SUGGESTION I MADE IN THE POST? WARRENTS? In your use of the word???? BANNED?

[kyb01]

Originally Posted by steeps

Do you think Philly couldn't? Of shouldn't have such a Tourist attraction on its Waterfront? If so give SPACIFICS? Why not?

The THREAD ask for SUGGESTIONS Philly could do to get more TOURIST? I merely KNOW How SUCESSFUL, Navy Pier in. Chicago BECAME INSTANTLY. AND TOURIST FLOCK TO IT and it is REVENUE BONANZA..... It is like 15-20 years old and already being changed and remodeled, to keep variety and people continuing to go to it. It IS THE BIGGEST TOURIST VISITED SIGHT IN THE UPPER MIDWEST.

I MADE A SUGGESTION ON THE THREAD TOPIC? ABOUT.....BRINGING IN MORE TOURIST????

Sure it takes planning? City and local Developers? But you have a Pier type structure there, could be more....a good spot for access? Columbus Blvd. A ASSET THAT Again? I see could be PHILLY'S premier Riverfront Drive. For High-End housing and Riverfront attractions? Land available along the Blvd. And across from that location on Google streetview...I said I COULD SEE A PIER LIKE ATTRACTION, AMUSEMENT COMPLEX? UTILIZING THE RIVER IN SUMMER FOR BOAT RIDES FOR TOURIST, DINER CRUISES ON THE DELAWARE FROM THERE....ECT. You already have some Harbors there. Also, it's Right in the shadow of THE BEN FRANKLIN BRIDGE. LIGHT IT UP WITH COLOR AND SHOW IT OFF.

Maybe we should just keep talking a about or hoping some Retailer comes to a Mall in Center City? FOR ATTRACTING LOTS OF TOURIST??? You have plenty of Big Malls outside of Philly, and to Lancaster? Tourist DO NOT Need to go to Center City to a Mall? The Market Place is much more marketable to tourist, to me though.... as different.

Again what COMMENT OR SUGGESTION I MADE IN THE POST? WARRENTS? In y?

Because, we, as honest to God Philadelphians, want to resolve our own issues.

And, as I said before, some of what you suggested has already been discussed in the Phila. We already get a lot of tourists. The thread was addressed to people WHO LIVE HERE about how to generate more tourism. We know the area intimately. You don't. Therefore it makes more sense for US to discuss it. Not you!

You continue to inject "Chicago solutions" to a place that has different history, topography, and weather. What for?

Btw, there are summer dinner cruises on the Delaware River. And there are tourist boat excursions. It's call Ride the Ducks. We are rehabbing our old piers one-by-one.