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Old 05-12-2014, 01:40 PM
 
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If we are all going to die and fade into nonexistence and we assume there no after life and no god, just non existence. Like Before we were born. Then what's the point? How do we cope with this every second of the day fading away moment to moment into non existence?
Do we just replicate our genes and that's it?
Generally speaking it seems to me there is no afterlife.
How do we cope with finite life? I am having trouble accepting this. I get panic attacks about it
One minute I was a baby I remember my childhood well, then my teens, then 20's and now I'm 34 and it's going by quick, soon I will be old then I will die. Everyone will die. My dog will die.
It's happening to me so quickly. We are all in the same boat.
We could be killed at any point before old age.
Into nonexistence.
I am having trouble accepting this for some reason.
What do I do with my time here. I don't know anymore...
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Old 05-12-2014, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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(1) If there is no God/free will/afterlife, then life has no meaning.
(2) There is no God/free will/afterlife
Therefore
(3) Life has no meaning.

This is a valid argument, but is it sound? If you don't like the conclusion, then you must deny (1) or (2).

How about this:

(4) Life is worth living
(5) If life is worth living, then life has meaning
Therefore
(6) Life has meaning.

This argument is valid too, and entails the falsity of (3), hence the falsity of either (1) or (2).

For me, experience tells me that (4) is true, and faith tells me that (2) is false. If you are unwilling to make a leap of faith, then you might look into Existentialism or Buddhism for responses to the first argument.

Note: although I have phrased the above arguments in general terms, for the sake of both philosophical methodology and your own mental health you might want to start by asking whether YOUR life is worth living, rather than passing judgment on "life" in general.

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Old 05-12-2014, 02:33 PM
 
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I have trouble with the concept of death and nonexistence. I can't wrap my brain around it and it happens to us all. I am trying to figure out how to live the best life with this uncertainty
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Old 05-12-2014, 03:10 PM
 
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If we are all going to die and fade into nonexistence and we assume there no after life and no god, just non existence. Like Before we were born. Then what's the point? How do we cope with this every second of the day fading away moment to moment into non existence?
Do we just replicate our genes and that's it?
Generally speaking it seems to me there is no afterlife.
How do we cope with finite life? I am having trouble accepting this. I get panic attacks about it
One minute I was a baby I remember my childhood well, then my teens, then 20's and now I'm 34 and it's going by quick, soon I will be old then I will die. Everyone will die. My dog will die.
It's happening to me so quickly. We are all in the same boat.
We could be killed at any point before old age.
Into nonexistence.
I am having trouble accepting this for some reason.
What do I do with my time here. I don't know anymore...
The truth of the matter is, we don't know for sure what happens when we die so why not live with purpose so when we do die, we know we lived a good life doing what we loved and feeling happy with ourselves? Either way, we die with a conscious mind in peace.

I had an out of body experience when I was in a coma as a child, and the concept of life and death hit me hard, and I realized that there's a purpose. You just have to listen within and look deep in your heart.
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Old 05-12-2014, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Type 0.73 Kardashev
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What's the point? To live. That's the point.

Love someone.
Read a book.
Do something useful.
Enjoy a glass of wine, a walk in the woods, or a good movie.
Share thoughts and laughter with people.
Walk a dog or pet a cat.
Make love.

Life is what you make it. Make it good.

"Enjoy every sandwich."
-The terminally-ill Warren Zevon, less than a year before he passed away.
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Old 05-12-2014, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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I don't know how you figure we fade into non-existence. I can honestly say I have no fear of death as it is something I've accepted I cannot control. IMO we are eternal spiritual beings just currently experiencing life as a human on Earth. Nobody knows where their soul will go next. Finite and measured time is a human concept.
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Old 05-12-2014, 06:27 PM
 
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The truth of the matter is, we don't know for sure what happens when we die so why not live with purpose so when we do die, we know we lived a good life doing what we loved and feeling happy with ourselves? Either way, we die with a conscious mind in peace.

I had an out of body experience when I was in a coma as a child, and the concept of life and death hit me hard, and I realized that there's a purpose. You just have to listen within and look deep in your heart.
Explain more about this coma I would like to hear it, or was it all just brain activity?
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Old 05-12-2014, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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If we are all going to die and fade into nonexistence and we assume there no after life and no god, just non existence. Like Before we were born. Then what's the point? How do we cope with this every second of the day fading away moment to moment into non existence?
Do we just replicate our genes and that's it?
Generally speaking it seems to me there is no afterlife.
How do we cope with finite life? I am having trouble accepting this. I get panic attacks about it
One minute I was a baby I remember my childhood well, then my teens, then 20's and now I'm 34 and it's going by quick, soon I will be old then I will die. Everyone will die. My dog will die.
It's happening to me so quickly. We are all in the same boat.
We could be killed at any point before old age.
Into nonexistence.
I am having trouble accepting this for some reason.
What do I do with my time here. I don't know anymore...
If this was 1964 I would agree that yes life has no meaning but its not. We will find out what the meaning of life is but it will not happen till after the singularity. I really believe that and a main reason I am doing all I can to make it to the singularity in 2030.
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Old 05-12-2014, 07:08 PM
 
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If this was 1964 I would agree that yes life has no meaning but its not. We will find out what the meaning of life is but it will not happen till after the singularity. I really believe that and a main reason I am doing all I can to make it to the singularity in 2030.
Singularity in 2030? and what is this? and why 1964?
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Old 05-12-2014, 07:09 PM
 
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I don't know how you figure we fade into non-existence. I can honestly say I have no fear of death as it is something I've accepted I cannot control. IMO we are eternal spiritual beings just currently experiencing life as a human on Earth. Nobody knows where their soul will go next. Finite and measured time is a human concept.
Death seems to be non existence like before we were born.Why do you think we are eternal and Spiritual?
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