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Ethical means that, based on reasoned argument, it's the good, right, correct thing to do, not only for yourself, but for anything we consider important (other humans, nature, animal welfare, etc.). Meat production in factory farms, as is the method for the vast majority of meat production in this country, is an ethical calamity. It's bad for the eco-system, for the animals, and for humans who consume the meat. In my opinion factory farm meat should be avoided whenever possible. However meat that comes from wild animals or humane, environmentally responsible farms, is not ethically wrong to consume in my view.
[quote=Cleverfield;39759392]Ethical means that, based on reasoned argument, it's the good, right, correct thing to do, not only for yourself, but for anything we consider important (other humans, nature, animal welfare, etc.). Meat production in factory farms, as is the method for the vast majority of meat production in this country, is an ethical calamity. It's bad for the eco-system, for the animals, and for humans who consume the meat. In my opinion factory farm meat should be avoided whenever possible. However meat that comes from wild animals or humane, environmentally responsible farms, is not ethically wrong to consume in my view.[/quote]
That's interesting because I believe that the tuna swimming up the Gulfstream or the deer romping through the woods has more of a claim to a natural life than the tilapia or steer raised as a crop that would not exist at all if there was no demand for its body.
That's interesting because I believe that the tuna swimming up the Gulfstream or the deer romping through the woods has more of a claim to a natural life than the tilapia or steer raised as a crop that would not exist at all if there was no demand for its body.
The predator-prey dynamic is part of a natural life (assuming the hunting is done in a sustainable, responsible way). Those animals had the chance to live their natural lives, free of mistreatment and abuse. They also had the opportunity to survive if they were fit enough. Animals that are brought into the world as "crops" don't have that opportunity, and are often abused from the time they're born. Abuse is cruel even if we brought the party being abused into existence. I'm not saying that all farming is bad, but most farming is cruel and abusive, and life in the wild, or life on a responsible farm is not.
I don't consider it unethical, but the idea of eating of eating flesh disgusts me on a personal level.
This. And the way that animals are treated during their lives, and death, makes it not an option for me.
Cruelty is what is unethical.
Eating flesh was never a great love of mine. Once I had to prepare it myself, I found it repulsive and disgusting. By the late 80s, I looked into meat production and I did not like what I found out.
I have little feeling on it. The only things I judge "morals" on is how we treat it while it is alive and how fast we kill it. I mean we need to show some respect for all life forms. Even the tasty ones.
Back then our ancestors didn't have the choice, they needed to for survival. Now, in the US at least, vegetarian and even vegan diets are completely sustainable (and often cost less - meat/fish is not cheap) for the country.
I converted to being a vegan (previously a meat eater for 25 years) 1.5 years ago and love it. So many health benefits, lower food bills (we buy organic too), and feel good I'm not contributing to animal cruelty and suffering.
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