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Old 11-25-2015, 01:37 PM
 
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Hypothetically speaking if one had access to a time machine and decided they wanted to go on a serial killing spree of the worst humans to have ever lived - pretty much evil incarnate, basically Satan's top Lieutenants would it be okay to kill them all as infants? Even though they may have not had time to grow up at all would it really be bad if say you found the likes of Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Muhammad, etc. as infants and took them from their cribs and say bashed their skulls, drowned them, threw them off a cliff etc.? Again, sure they haven't had time to grow up but knowing they will eventually become pure evil and cause mass killings would killing them as infants really be bad apart from the timeline changing of course?
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Old 11-25-2015, 01:47 PM
 
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This is so ridiculous.....
And what is going on with all the venom and sadism?

Read up on twins paradox. That is answer to your question.
History can not be changed. Every event in history has its purpose, just like every person. What you do not know, is what the purpose is, as you see only short span of history and, also, know only information that was provided to you. In both cases you can only come to a biased conclusion.
Intelligent person knows this and comes to none.
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Old 11-25-2015, 03:07 PM
 
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Hypothetically speaking if one had access to a time machine and decided they wanted to go on a serial killing spree of the worst humans to have ever lived - pretty much evil incarnate, basically Satan's top Lieutenants would it be okay to kill them all as infants? Even though they may have not had time to grow up at all would it really be bad if say you found the likes of Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Muhammad, etc. as infants and took them from their cribs and say bashed their skulls, drowned them, threw them off a cliff etc.? Again, sure they haven't had time to grow up but knowing they will eventually become pure evil and cause mass killings would killing them as infants really be bad apart from the timeline changing of course?
The problem is that you'd have no idea of what the larger outcome would be for the future. Sure, if you killed Hitler as an infant, the course of history would be changed in his absence. But the change could also result in something as bad or worse. There would be people who wouldn't have otherwise lived, not to say that's a bad thing. Depending on your age, it's possible changing the course of history could mean you might not be even born because your parents might end up meeting completely different people. What comes to mind is the so-called "Butterfly Effect". If you weren't born, then you wouldn't be around to travel back in time to kill Hitler as a baby. And that suggests a variation of the "Grandfather Paradox".

Another thought is that if you killed Hitler as a child, even though it's just one person, would make you any different? That in itself is pretty brutal to think about. It would just make you a brutal murderer. Certainly there'd be other people appalled by the murder of an infant. Again, you'd have no idea what the outcome would be for the future. If you could somehow sneak into the bunker and kill him as a adult and sneak out again, then the course of the future might not change much.
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Old 11-25-2015, 03:11 PM
 
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I think the worst thing you could do with a time machine is go around changing history.
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Old 11-25-2015, 04:00 PM
 
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Anyone that could bash the head of an infant really isn't someone we want to spend the future with either.

If history was meant to be and in the making of the big picture, in the absence of Hitler, someone else would have replaced him.
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Old 11-25-2015, 05:47 PM
 
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Anyone that could bash the head of an infant really isn't someone we want to spend the future with either.

If history was meant to be and in the making of the big picture, in the absence of Hitler, someone else would have replaced him.
Even if the infant is someone inherently evil such as I said above like Hitler, Stalin, Muhammad? Isn't it safe to say regardless of their upbringing they were destined to be the worst most evil humans to have ever lived?
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Old 11-25-2015, 11:17 PM
 
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Ridiculous. Evil doesn't exist in babies and children. The evil is manifested as a choice of theirs when they come of age.
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Old 11-25-2015, 11:23 PM
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There are millions of people with the personality of Hitler. The evil was in putting him in power and obeying him.
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Old 11-26-2015, 12:06 AM
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I think the worst thing you could do with a time machine is go around changing history.
Most time machines would actually work in read-only mode. In that mode, the people you visit in the past can't see you or hear you. They don't become aware that you're visiting them. And you can't make any changes at all, especially not kill anyone.

If a read-write time machine were possible, you would be making changes to a different future than the one you came from. In the one you came from, Hitler would still be the same. In the new one, things might be so different that he wouldn't have any opportunity to gain power in the first place.
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Old 11-26-2015, 03:23 AM
 
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There are millions of people with the personality of Hitler. The evil was in putting him in power and obeying him.


This is a terrifying thought. Sadly I know you are likely correct. I agree with previous posters who say going back in history to kill evil people before they do their damage could have a lot of unforeseen issues. I think this is why God has not allowed the invention of a time machine, and I seriously doubt it will ever be possible. This is definitely a good thing. I think every person out there would do something bad with a time machine if they could get a hold of one. From going back to 1980 and buying Apple computer stocks to changing the course of wars or even exacting revenge. Not much good could ever come from using a time machine.
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