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Originally Posted by Kicks45
Hypothetically speaking if one had access to a time machine and decided they wanted to go on a serial killing spree of the worst humans to have ever lived - pretty much evil incarnate, basically Satan's top Lieutenants would it be okay to kill them all as infants? Even though they may have not had time to grow up at all would it really be bad if say you found the likes of Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Muhammad, etc. as infants and took them from their cribs and say bashed their skulls, drowned them, threw them off a cliff etc.? Again, sure they haven't had time to grow up but knowing they will eventually become pure evil and cause mass killings would killing them as infants really be bad apart from the timeline changing of course?
I don't think Doc Brown would like that. As much as it is horrible what they did, horrible events like that - if they were changed could have serious effects in the future.
Yes, it IS only a movie - but in Back to the Future #3 where they ended up in 1885 and Doc Brown saved Clara Clayton from falling into the ravine. That one small thing in the movie - changed the name of the ravine and how kids learned history in that town. (yes, again fictional I know)
Then of course, the original movie - Even how Marty's parents met - he completely changed their lifestyle.
So, if you changed history w/ this horrible events - the future as we know today could be very different. Would everyone you know be alive? Would you be alive? Would other events happened? etc.
There are millions of people with the personality of Hitler. The evil was in putting him in power and obeying him.
Hitler was a hateful little man before circumstances gave him the chance to live his fantasy. If he'd not been there there were other hateful little men too, and the reward from those feeling the same would be much the same. We don't know how many 'hitlers' have been out there and they are little more than the guy ranting on whatever the most available media for outsiders is, since they didn't 'connect' with society.
It could be argued if the winners in the first world war hadn't personally punished Germany by bankrupting it even if Hiter had been ranting to his buddies, he might just be an annoying loud noise. It was circumstances from the end of the previous war which created the chance for him to find his place and make his new society.
The route reality takes is this incredably complex thing, and the small change you make even if well motivated may in the end be an enormous disastor.
Or you could go back and change the terms put upon Germany after the First World War. Those terms lead to Germany's economic problems which allowed groups like the NAZIs to fourish. But then perhaps another European nation would be in economic termoil and a less than wonderful person rise in that nation instead of Hitler in Germany.
Killing babies and infants seems like a rather simplistic solution and would you be sure that someone else would not have taken Hitler's place? A good possiblity that the answer would be no but you cannot know what the result would be nor if killing him when he was young was the only solution.
Hypothetically speaking if one had access to a time machine and decided they wanted to go on a serial killing spree of the worst humans to have ever lived - pretty much evil incarnate, basically Satan's top Lieutenants would it be okay to kill them all as infants? Even though they may have not had time to grow up at all would it really be bad if say you found the likes of Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Muhammad, etc. as infants and took them from their cribs and say bashed their skulls, drowned them, threw them off a cliff etc.? Again, sure they haven't had time to grow up but knowing they will eventually become pure evil and cause mass killings would killing them as infants really be bad apart from the timeline changing of course?
Better to go back even further and just abort them.
Even if the infant is someone inherently evil such as I said above like Hitler, Stalin, Muhammad? Isn't it safe to say regardless of their upbringing they were destined to be the worst most evil humans to have ever lived?
If handed you an infant right now and told you this will be a future serial killer and he will kill hundreds of people. Would you bash that babies head in right now?
If handed you an infant right now and told you this will be a future serial killer and he will kill hundreds of people. Would you bash that babies head in right now?
There is a huge difference between living in the future then going back in a time machine, vs living in the past and speculating about the future.
Or, we could go back in time, meet Gavrilo Princip and take him out drinking. Get him so drunk his hangover causes him to sleep in and miss the archduke's parade. That way you'll avoid WWI, Lenin's return to Russia and just about everything else.
If i knew my grown up kids were going to do serious harm to people and hurt and kill innocents--be a special soup made -if I saw no recourse to stop that terrible action-- as in Hitler--come here baby, mum made you a nice broth-- sleep well my child -- I think some times moms should have the option-- not of kids course- never hurt a kid--but those you know just evil men and women --but we can't even get moms to cooperate with police KNOWING crimes are committed by their offspring. never work-
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As much as it is horrible what they did, horrible events like that - if they were changed could have serious effects in the future.
