New "we don't call them quotas" for Phoenix Police

[pbenjamin]

Originally Posted by Valley Native

Case in point: I received a similar warning for a "false alarm" from the PPD earlier this year, but I protested it because somebody (likely a would be intruder) actually came to my front door and banged on it so hard that it set off the alarm. The person left and never actually "broke in" (obviously because he heard the alarm). It was late at night and I was asleep ... and yes, I keep my alarm activated when I go to bed at night. So you tell me: what purpose would some jackass have for coming around late at night banging on somebody's door?! Likely, to commit a CRIME such as burglary! I credit my screeching alarm for scaring him away ... not the police who came out after the fact & slapped me with a warning a week later!

Why did the police come? The way the monitoring is supposed to work (at least the way ours works) is that if the alarm goes off the monitoring company calls your house. If you don't answer or if the person that answers can't provide the password, THEN the police are called.

[PoppySead]

I could have filled that quota on my way home today.
I'm sure they don't have a problem meeting it. It wouldn't help them any to fill it with the innocent. I think they'd start to notice officer Jim bringing in several housewives a week. lol

[Valley Native]

Originally Posted by pbenjamin

Why did the police come? The way the monitoring is supposed to work (at least the way ours works) is that if the alarm goes off the monitoring company calls your house. If you don't answer or if the person that answers can't provide the password, THEN the police are called.

That's exactly the way mine operates ... and I believe most alarm systems are set up that way. I was asleep when all this was happening, and when I woke up & heard the voice on the speaker from the dispatch center, I said that somebody was pounding on my door, and to send out the police. Well, the police came a while later (long after the person was gone), they looked around, and said there was nobody in sight & no evidence of anybody actually breaking in, so they left. A week later, I received a nice little warning letter from the PPD about that call being a "false alarm". When I protested it, they said it was because nobody actually broke in, and they saw no evidence of an attempt to break & enter. Nevertheless, a crime was still in process, so the police were very negligent as far as I'm concerned.

[JAinAZ]

Originally Posted by PoppySead

I could have filled that quota on my way home today.
I'm sure they don't have a problem meeting it. It wouldn't help them any to fill it with the innocent. I think they'd start to notice officer Jim bringing in several housewives a week. lol

How true, Poppy. I get the feeling some people think the "quotas" mean an officer needs to make 10 stops a day. Most departments that have standards are down around 1 or two stops per duty day, and leave it to the officer to decide if it will be a warning or a citation. I dare someone to tell me they don't see at least one serious traffic violation on their daily commute. Then remember the officer is on the road all day long.

[Zippyman]

Originally Posted by JAinAZ

How true, Poppy. I get the feeling some people think the "quotas" mean an officer needs to make 10 stops a day. Most departments that have standards are down around 1 or two stops per duty day, and leave it to the officer to decide if it will be a warning or a citation. I dare someone to tell me they don't see at least one serious traffic violation on their daily commute. Then remember the officer is on the road all day long.

at least in Phoenix, the officer is on *calls* all day long.. Phoenix pd officers don't hang out in the qwick-y marts or donut shops all day/night long like cops in other cities do.. Phoenix also has those village-people-looking biker dudes that can really only write tickets.. As a taxpayer & resident here, I'd rather have the cops answering calls than setting up speed traps.

[Phxrider]

I don't know how they are going to do it. Phx PD is currently short 600 officers. Except for special units most patrol officers go from call to call with little time to be proactive.

[DetroitN8V]

Recently I've noticed several LEO Tahoes on the embankment along the 101 northbound in Scottsdale between Indian Bend and FLW. I've never noticed any proactive traffic enforcement in that area until this. I believe they are MCSO trucks because I think Scottsdale only has Expeditions. Not sure if this is related to "quotas" or that it's just the time that that section gets patrolled, but watch out!

[madmmac]

Quota's I'd like to see:

Officer must drive a maximum 30 miles per day in their area while patrolling.
Officer must walk 3-4 miles per day in their area....walk different places different days.
1 hour per day maximum running radar.
2 hours per week at a school talking with students.

I could go on and on.

[Phxrider]

Madmmc if you had 6000 officers maybe you could do all that , with their manpower now , no way