Goodbye, Coyotes? (Phoenix, Glendale: bankrupt, assessment, move)

[observer53]

Originally Posted by Slater

Nothing against hockey, it's just that historically Arizona has not been a hockey environment and most folks don't follow the game down here.

You obviously weren't living here when the WHL Phoenix Roadrunners were the hottest thing in town.

And, as others have said, Anaheim/LA and Tampa Bay aren't exactly traditional hockey environments, either.

[take57]

Originally Posted by Wally Sconce

ding ding Coyote's win round one.

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Where the fun begins is if Glendale has the brass to hire counsel that's willing to go for the throat and force IceArizona to open their books during discovery in the Coyotes countersuit.
That's when we can break out the popcorn and watch the fur fly.

[Jennifer2020]

Also with Las Vegas getting a expansion team when there new arena is finished, New Interstate 11 connecting
Phoenix & Las Vegas is coming, Both Cities are bouncing back strong from the recession and with Phoenix adding
over 100,000 people every year Also With New South Mountain Freeway starting construction next year it will be a lot quicker to get to Glendale for the East Valley /Pinal County people were over 2 million live and that's if they stay in Glendale and not go to Phoenix, The Coyotes have been told by the NHL they are never going to let the team leave Arizona

[Zippyman]

Originally Posted by take57

Where the fun begins is if Glendale has the brass to hire counsel that's willing to go for the throat and force IceArizona to open their books during discovery in the Coyotes countersuit.
That's when we can break out the popcorn and watch the fur fly.

+1

If you're going to ask for $200 million dollars in damages, you need to show some proof.

No way the Coyotes were netting $40 mil a year, and the only thing worse than that would be if they *were* netting $40 mil a year, with $15 mil coming from the taxpayers.

The Coyotes are talking some serious trash in the press, which I think is good. The voters in the next town they try to work over will have some some honest talking points to mull over while they're voting themselves into a tax increase.

[Jennifer2020]

I hope the Coyotes tell Glendale to go to hell and they play there games
in Talking Stick Resort Arena (X American Airways Center) I will buy season tickets if the do
and several of my friends, coworkers & neighbors said the same thing , most of us are from the northeast
& Midwest, Glendale is just too far coming from Gilbert, Chandler, Mesa, Santan Valley, AJ,
And hopefully 3 or 4 years the new arena will be completed

[Wally Sconce]

Should have cranked up the voltage,

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[Pink Jazz]

I personally think that should the Coyotes be forced to move out of Glendale, the best place for them would be somewhere in the East Valley, most likely either Mesa or Chandler. Tempe could work as well, but Tempe is landlocked and I don't know where in the city could an arena be built.

[observer53]

Originally Posted by Jennifer2020

I hope the Coyotes tell Glendale to go to hell and they play there games
in Talking Stick Resort Arena (X American Airways Center) I will buy season tickets if the do
and several of my friends, coworkers & neighbors said the same thing , most of us are from the northeast
& Midwest, Glendale is just too far coming from Gilbert, Chandler, Mesa, Santan Valley, AJ,
And hopefully 3 or 4 years the new arena will be completed

The present arena would only be a stopgap, as it was not built for hockey. You make funding for a new arena sound like it's going to fall from the sky.... it's not. There's a lot that would have to be sorted out, no matter where a new arena might be built. Downtown would be ideal, but difficult financially. I'm sure it would benefit attendance to be downtown. Whether it would be enough remains to be seen.

Originally Posted by Pink Jazz

I personally think that should the Coyotes be forced to move out of Glendale, the best place for them would be somewhere in the East Valley, most likely either Mesa or Chandler. Tempe could work as well, but Tempe is landlocked and I don't know where in the city could an arena be built.

Forced to move out of Glendale by whom????

You, too, are acting like money for yet another arena grows on trees. If another arena is going to be built, it's not likely to be just for the hockey team. The Suns aren't moving to Mesa or Chandler, and a multiteam arena surely isn't getting built in Tempe either.

[take57]

Originally Posted by Zippyman

+1

If you're going to ask for $200 million dollars in damages, you need to show some proof.

No way the Coyotes were netting $40 mil a year, and the only thing worse than that would be if they *were* netting $40 mil a year, with $15 mil coming from the taxpayers.

The Coyotes are talking some serious trash in the press, which I think is good. The voters in the next town they try to work over will have some some honest talking points to mull over while they're voting themselves into a tax increase.

The larger point being, IceArizona would put the club in a dumpster, pour gasoline on it and set it on fire before they'd open up the books. Well that, or as you correctly point out, high tail it out of town Baltimore Colts Style and find another mark... errr... sports minded municipality to put the grift on.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not hating on the Coyotes per se or making fun of Glendale. Frankly I appreciate the city learning the first lesson of playing poker: If you haven't figured out in the first twenty minutes of the game who the chump is... then it's probably you!

[observer53]

Originally Posted by Jennifer2020

Also with Las Vegas getting a expansion team when there new arena is finished, New Interstate 11 connecting
Phoenix & Las Vegas is coming, Both Cities are bouncing back strong from the recession and with Phoenix adding
over 100,000 people every year Also With New South Mountain Freeway starting construction next year it will be a lot quicker to get to Glendale for the East Valley /Pinal County people were over 2 million live and that's if they stay in Glendale and not go to Phoenix, The Coyotes have been told by the NHL they are never going to let the team leave Arizona

When did you become such an expert on things where you don't live? Las Vegas and Interstate 11 are irrelevant to this discussion. It will be years before the SMF is built. Assuming that the court holds Glendale to their contract, it will not be done before the 5 year out clause applicable to both parties kicks in, and my bet will be that one or the other will invoke it. Once that happens, if someone comes along with the $$$ to take the team elsewhere and pay the relocation fees, etc., the NHL will let the franchise leave. They will have had enough of Glendale/Phoenix by then.