02-07-2009, 10:09 AM
Location: Phoenix metro
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Ponderosa
The soul of the team and the heart of the fans have been changed
As Ive always stated, AZ fans dont give a crap about their teams unless they have a good season, and you've just agreed with me to a certain extent. It wasnt until the Cards FINALLY built a stadium that the "fans" showed up, and it was probably just to socialize and/or "look cool".
02-07-2009, 10:22 AM
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Steve-o
As Ive always stated, AZ fans dont give a crap about their teams unless they have a good season, and you've just agreed with me to a certain extent. It wasnt until the Cards FINALLY built a stadium that the "fans" showed up, and it was probably just to socialize and/or "look cool".
Attending an NFL game is a social event. That said - obviously, you have never been to UOP stadium to see 65 to 70,000 Cardinals fans rooting for their team - even when the Cardinals were losing. You have not seen the 1000's outside - and the Tailgating going on.
Face it - you know nothing about what you speak of here
02-07-2009, 11:36 AM
Location: Chandler
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ibarrio
1. Haley Leaves to KC (Was the Offensive Coordinator) Whiz was OC before he came here so he can call plays....No big loss. It is a big loss...Head coaches are game managers and should have someone they trust calling the plays. Whiz can be the OC but that is just an extra duty he now bears. Our defense gave up over 400 pts. I think we can find someone to do better. Really? Name a better and available DC that is willing to come to AZ. Better hit the College ranks or retirement villages. Sorry but he is under contract for 2 more years so we can get something for him or he will have to sit out. Boldin has said he is holding out if he is not traded. Not only does it become a huge distraction for the team it also holds a roster spot hostage. He didn't play a big part of the year although he sure came through in the playoffs. Maybe we can pick up someone in a trade for Boldin. He was very pivotal during the playoff run. He kept every defense but the Steelers honest...they had to respect him as a run threat. We'll see what happens here. His agent and Graves are talking. He may get a franchise tag. Unless it is a block buster contract I doubt he signs. He wants to test the market...why blame him? Get what you can while you can...A franchise tag would still cost the Cards about 8-9 million. Plus You don't set a good precedence around the league if you slap a franchise tag on the same player two years in a row. Same old Cardinals or Cardinals willing to spend money to get good players...People around the league are watching We'll just have to wait and see on this one. I think he still wants to play. He wants to play. He also said that the Boldin situation will be part of his decision. Warner is not an idiot...he knows how important Boldin was to the Cardinals. The fans may not understand but the QB does...Do you really think Matt will take the Cards to the playoffs?
I trust in Whiz to handle the coaching staff just fine. Remember Haley just started calling plays this year, Whiz called them last year. I would expect it not to be a big deal for him to groom another OC the same way. We will see what happens with the DC. I expect Whiz has someone in mind, the current linebacker coach for the Steelers has been mentioned but he may not be available. No matter who it is, as I said, they can't do much worse than giving up over 400 points.
I will give you the point that this is the time we really see if this is the same old cardinals. With 40 million in cap space we need to get our players signed. I have read where Suggs is interested in coming to Az so if we sign him but loose Dansby I think we come out ahead. Boldin's threats to sit came a while ago. If you see his comments from the Pro Bowl he has said the next few weeks will tell. Hopefully with Fitz willing to re-work his contract Boldin will sign too.
Time will tell if Matt can lead us to the playoffs. He has one of the best Mentors so I wouldn't base my decision on how he played previously.
02-07-2009, 12:05 PM
Location: Surprise, Az
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Attending an NFL game is a social event. That said - obviously, you have never been to UOP stadium to see 65 to 70,000 Cardinals fans rooting for their team - even when the Cardinals were losing. You have not seen the 1000's outside - and the Tailgating going on.
I went to the Dallas vs. Cardinals game this year and at least 40% or more were Cowboys fans...
You won't ever see even 10% opposing fans in the Bears Stadium...
02-07-2009, 06:20 PM
Location: GIlbert, AZ
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ibarrio
I went to the Dallas vs. Cardinals game this year and at least 40% or more were Cowboys fans...
I was at INvestco field, and the Broncos were playing the Packers. I swear there were more packer fans there that day. That was kind of crappy.
02-08-2009, 01:04 PM
Location: SUNNY AZ
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ibarrio
I went to the Dallas vs. Cardinals game this year and at least 40% or more were Cowboys fans...
I was at that game as well, and I'd have to totally disagree with ya'
unless, of course, you were up in nosebleed
. But down where it matters, it was a sea of red
02-08-2009, 06:20 PM
Location: Surprise, Az
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lola8822
I was at that game as well, and I'd have to totally disagree with ya'
unless, of course, you were up in nosebleed
. But down where it matters, it was a sea of red
I was in the lower section...We had it full of Cowboys fans
02-08-2009, 07:21 PM
Location: Phoenix
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Attending an NFL game is a social event. That said - obviously, you have never been to UOP stadium to see 65 to 70,000 Cardinals fans rooting for their team - even when the Cardinals were losing. You have not seen the 1000's outside - and the Tailgating going on.
That can be said for ANY sporting event, any team, any city.
02-08-2009, 08:17 PM
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Moved to Phoenix long before there was an NFL team shipped here.
02-09-2009, 07:58 AM
Location: SUNNY AZ
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ibarrio
I was in the lower section...We had it full of Cowboys fans
doubt it....there were maybe a couple. Look, i'm a big cowboys fan as well, when they aren't playing my cards, so I wouldn't have anything against that....it just isn't reality is all.....
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Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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