What's the deal with beer and smokes? (Glendale: crime, taxi)

[BillyBaroo]

The days of being able to "bum" a smoke are over too. If somebody asks me for a smoke at work these days, they're 50 cents each.

[fcorrales80]

My friends have been traded a drink at a bar/club for a smoke!!! I think that is a deal, but I don't smoke so I guess I am biased. Drinks usually run about $2.50 to $16 each depending on the night, specials, and the bar/club! Crazy smokers!

If I was still in college and on more of a budget, I'd buy a pack of cigs on the weekends and trade for drinks at the bar/club!!! Only if!

[azriverfan.]

Originally Posted by YAZ

Spoken like a true doctor.

Can't read their handwriting and can't create a paragraph.

LOL so true I agree that this law affects civil liberties but I'm biased like you said. I've personally witnessed the damage it causes and I feel that it's worth the sacrafice of a civil liberty if it means it can save and improve the quality of lives in individuals. And equating fast food and alcohol to smoking isn't the same although the previous two have their own problems. In short, there is no such thing as smoking in moderation is fine, however, alcohol and even fast food in moderation isn't harmful. And I don't recall my McDonald's cheeseburger flying out of my window and entering some kid's stomach in the car behind me.

Nonetheless, our government has always made judgement calls on society if they feel those decisions benefits society. Why isn't pot legal? Why do we restrict other drugs but allow tobacco? If you want to argue about civil liberties being taken away, one could argue that's already being done.

[las vegas drunk]

Originally Posted by azriverfan.

LOL so true I agree that this law affects civil liberties but I'm biased like you said. I've personally witnessed the damage it causes and I feel that it's worth the sacrafice of a civil liberty if it means it can save and improve the quality of lives in individuals. And equating fast food and alcohol to smoking isn't the same although the previous two have their own problems. In short, there is no such thing as smoking in moderation is fine, however, alcohol and even fast food in moderation isn't harmful. And I don't recall my McDonald's cheeseburger flying out of my window and entering some kid's stomach in the car behind me.

Nonetheless, our government has always made judgement calls on society if they feel those decisions benefits society. Why isn't pot legal? Why do we restrict other drugs but allow tobacco? If you want to argue about civil liberties being taken away, one could argue that's already being done.

I agree. I would be thrilled if they made cigarettes $20 a pack. Every time I go to the casino I am forced to smoke along with the smokers. I hate it. I have already noticed less people are smoking with the cigarette tax increase.

[KarmaPhx]

You can get good deals on beer if you check sales, but the beer I drink is never on sale (Sierra Nevada Pale Ale) so I have to pay like $12-$14 for a 6 pack!

If you like pints, just drink tall boys, they are 24oz cans, you can buy 12 packs depending on where you go.

I have never seen a 4 pack of beer, let alone 16oz cans?

[whitem3]

Originally Posted by azriverfan.

LOL so true I agree that this law affects civil liberties but I'm biased like you said. I've personally witnessed the damage it causes and I feel that it's worth the sacrafice of a civil liberty if it means it can save and improve the quality of lives in individuals. And equating fast food and alcohol to smoking isn't the same although the previous two have their own problems. In short, there is no such thing as smoking in moderation is fine, however, alcohol and even fast food in moderation isn't harmful. And I don't recall my McDonald's cheeseburger flying out of my window and entering some kid's stomach in the car behind me.

Nonetheless, our government has always made judgement calls on society if they feel those decisions benefits society. Why isn't pot legal? Why do we restrict other drugs but allow tobacco? If you want to argue about civil liberties being taken away, one could argue that's already being done.

Being you asked:

Many people assume that marijuana was made illegal through some kind of process involving scientific, medical, and government hearings; that it was to protect the citizens from what was determined to be a dangerous drug.

Why is Marijuana Illegal?

[KarmaPhx]

Originally Posted by whitem3

Being you asked:

Many people assume that marijuana was made illegal through some kind of process involving scientific, medical, and government hearings; that it was to protect the citizens from what was determined to be a dangerous drug.

Why is Marijuana Illegal?

Trying to prove a point with a website made by a 5-year old is a bad idea, regardless it is filled with good information, biased yes, but still useful.

I doubt it will be legalized in my lifetime, and if it is, I will probably have no desire to smoke it by then.

[azriverfan.]

Originally Posted by whitem3

Being you asked:

Many people assume that marijuana was made illegal through some kind of process involving scientific, medical, and government hearings; that it was to protect the citizens from what was determined to be a dangerous drug.

Why is Marijuana Illegal?

I don't know why it was originally illegal but a big reason it hasn't been legalized is the idea that it is a gateway drug and the slippery slope argument(if you legalize this then..what are you going to legalize next) I'm not saying I agree with it, but those are the reasons that are most often stated. Still marijuana users are highly misinformed and state reasons that I don't bother disputing any longer because pot smokers have their own culture and refuse to believe the facts. I don't disagree that marijuana has been demonized but in response to that, pot smokers have taken it to the other extreme and tried to sell it as this clean natural remedy that the big bad government just doesn't like.

[whitem3]

I was simply answering a question. I have no plans to hijack this thread which has to do with beer and cigarettes. There's plenty of threads concerning marijuana in the Politics section.

[YAZ]

Originally Posted by azriverfan.

LOL so true I agree that this law affects civil liberties but I'm biased like you said. I've personally witnessed the damage it causes and I feel that it's worth the sacrafice of a civil liberty if it means it can save and improve the quality of lives in individuals. And equating fast food and alcohol to smoking isn't the same although the previous two have their own problems. In short, there is no such thing as smoking in moderation is fine, however, alcohol and even fast food in moderation isn't harmful. And I don't recall my McDonald's cheeseburger flying out of my window and entering some kid's stomach in the car behind me.

Nonetheless, our government has always made judgement calls on society if they feel those decisions benefits society. Why isn't pot legal? Why do we restrict other drugs but allow tobacco? If you want to argue about civil liberties being taken away, one could argue that's already being done.

Not only are flying cig butts dangerous, it's littering. What folks do with their spent smokes is an entirely different matter. I have to disagree with you (respectfully, of course), about the government making judgement calls to benefit society.

The high taxes on booze and tobacco are there to increase revenue, not to protect us from ourselves. Take the "gas tax" for example. Does this tax exist to give us incentive to drive less, therefore benefitting the environment?

No. It's there to increase revenue.

How about the tax on "deli" items at your local grocer? While some of the items in the deli case may be "bad" for you, many items are quite nutritious. The tax on "prepared" food is there to increase revenue.

The "sin tax" is an easy way to raise revenue, without much griping from the masses. I.e., it's socially acceptable. No one is gonna strike up the argument that smoking isn't bad for you (or others).

Regarding the civil liberties issue, just because the government "has always done that" doesn't make it right.