Eds and Meds (Pittsburgh, Denver, Oklahoma: real estate market, loans, buying) - Pennsylvania (PA) - Page 4 - City-Data Forum

globalburgh · 08-31-2011, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Katiana

If most of the out-of-state Pitt students come from NY and NJ, then Pitt is more of a regional school than a national one.

Pitt is definitely more of a regional school. But that's neither here nor there.

Katarina Witt · 08-31-2011, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by globalburgh

I disagree with your assessment. I've worked at CU. Taught classes. Poured over admission data. (I did studies for CU's distance education program) I taught at Front Range CC. I have dear friends who teach at CSU. I know the higher education community there inside and out. I lived in Longmont for 7-years. The tension between the two schools is acute there. Yes, CSU is the safe school. The lower tier doesn't discount the native disdain for Boulder. It's not "nothing".

Not all "natives" have a disdain for Boulder. The most popular college for graduates of both my kids' high school classes was CU-Boulder. Second was FRCC. This was in 2002 and 2005.

This has been an interesting conversation, but we're hijacking the thread; we probably should agree to disagree and quit now.

globalburgh · 08-31-2011, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Katiana

Not all "natives" have a disdain for Boulder.

Agreed.

BrianTH · 08-31-2011, 10:16 AM

Just an aside, but there is some amount of regionalism at every level of college/university--Harvard is going to get more Northeast students than Stanford, and Stanford more West Coast students than Harvard.

And all regions are not the same. The Mid-Atlantic region may not look big on a map, but it is very dense in terms of population, education, and prosperity.

Finally, with Pitt (as with many similar schools) you really need to distinguish different programs/schools.

Aqua Teen Carl · 08-31-2011, 10:40 AM

I'm worried as to what will happen once the student loan bubble bursts.

globalburgh · 08-31-2011, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianTH

Just an aside, but there is some amount of regionalism at every level of college/university--Harvard is going to get more Northeast students than Stanford, and Stanford more West Coast students than Harvard.

And all regions are not the same. The Mid-Atlantic region may not look big on a map, but it is very dense in terms of population, education, and prosperity.

Finally, with Pitt (as with many similar schools) you really need to distinguish different programs/schools.

The distinction between "regional" and "national" is meaningless. The issue is the ability to draw on prospects outside of market. CU does that well. So does Pitt. Both are sustainable drivers of a regional economy.

If you broadened the scope to Pittsburgh metro versus Denver metro, Pittsburgh does a much better job of attracting out-of-market students. And Denver has a brain drain problem. Pittsburgh does not.

globalburgh · 08-31-2011, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Aqua Teen Carl

I'm worried as to what will happen once the student loan bubble bursts.

My guess is that Eds Pittsburgh will get stronger as a result. A bit like what happened when the real estate bubble burst.

BrianTH · 08-31-2011, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by globalburgh

The distinction between "regional" and "national" is meaningless. The issue is the ability to draw on prospects outside of market.

I'd tend to agree.

Katarina Witt · 08-31-2011, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by globalburgh

The distinction between "regional" and "national" is meaningless. The issue is the ability to draw on prospects outside of market. CU does that well. So does Pitt. Both are sustainable drivers of a regional economy.

If you broadened the scope to Pittsburgh metro versus Denver metro, Pittsburgh does a much better job of attracting out-of-market students. And Denver has a brain drain problem. Pittsburgh does not.

I don't know about either one of those statements. Please provide some documentation. The University of Denver has a majority out of state student body.

College Search - University of Denver - DU - At a Glance

Denver is growing; Pittsburgh is not. I am talking about the metro here.

Aqua Teen Carl · 08-31-2011, 11:28 AM

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My guess is that Eds Pittsburgh will get stronger as a result. A bit like what happened when the real estate bubble burst.

Well the problem is that having housing is a necessity where as having a higher level education from a college is not. Plus if people can't afford college enrollment should technically be down all over the nation right?