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Old 03-28-2022, 07:32 PM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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Apparently, the Baltimore, Birmingham, Boston, Buffalo, Chicago, Cleveland, Detroit, Hartford, Honolulu, Los Angeles, Louisville, Memphis, Miami, Milwaukee, New Orleans, New York, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Rochester, St. Louis, San Diego, San Francisco/Oakland, San Jose, Seattle and Washington DC MSAs all lost population from 2020-2021, and the Minneapolis/St. Paul, Portland and Providence MSAs had zero growth! Wow, what a disaster for so many major MSAs across the United States!

Even worse, if you exclude the Boston, Chicago, Cleveland, Denver, Detroit, Los Angeles, Miami, Milwaukee, Minneapolis/St. Paul, New Orleans, New York, Philadelphia, Portland, St. Louis, Salt Lake City, San Diego, San Francisco/Oakland, San Jose, Seattle and Washington DC MSAs, then the Pittsburgh MSA had the largest numeric net decline to domestic migration of any major MSA in the United States! Everything is RUINED!
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Old 03-28-2022, 08:16 PM
 
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Apparently, the Baltimore, Birmingham, Boston, Buffalo, Chicago, Cleveland, Detroit, Hartford, Honolulu, Los Angeles, Louisville, Memphis, Miami, Milwaukee, New Orleans, New York, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Rochester, St. Louis, San Diego, San Francisco/Oakland, San Jose, Seattle and Washington DC MSAs all lost population from 2020-2021, and the Minneapolis/St. Paul, Portland and Providence MSAs had zero growth! Wow, what a disaster for so many major MSAs across the United States!

Even worse, if you exclude the Boston, Chicago, Cleveland, Denver, Detroit, Los Angeles, Miami, Milwaukee, Minneapolis/St. Paul, New Orleans, New York, Philadelphia, Portland, St. Louis, Salt Lake City, San Diego, San Francisco/Oakland, San Jose, Seattle and Washington DC MSAs, then the Pittsburgh MSA had the largest numeric net decline to domestic migration of any major MSA in the United States! Everything is RUINED!
The country has a lot of old people. The pandemic killed a lot of people. People weren’t and aren’t having children to replace those that are dying. Immigration has slowed to a halt. This isn’t rocket science.

You can’t undo demographics and births. It is what it is. 3/4 of the counties in the US are in decline. The 2020 census was the slowest growth in record.

The US doesn’t support women to have children or support people to have families. The youngest Xers and oldest millennials were wise and didn’t pop out children like previous generations. Saddled with debt and had to sit behind boomers that should’ve been retired long ago. Now the elderly folks may not have people to wipe their rear or clean their chin when they become low functioning humans.

We aren’t ruined, but don’t expect to get quick service at restaurants and don’t expect the supply chain issues to get better anytime soon.

It’s been a long time in the making. Now it’s here.
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Old 03-28-2022, 08:28 PM
 
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Yeah true, when the 2020 Census numbers wer taken, we were only 3 weeks into the pandemic. I exepct the city to likely drop more this decade due to it as with most urban areas across the country.
It likely will, the economy was better here in the 2010s than any time the last 50 plus years. However it was always fragile. Unless they get in migration there is little hope for growth in the pittsburgh area. Hard to do when you can’t compete with peer cities and job opportunities.

On a grander scale we are seeing those that were coming of age into adulthood in the mid 90s to mid 00s. This group of folks didn’t have the children as previous generations. Now you don’t have the teens or young adults from them to fill service jobs or fill supply chain jobs. This group didn’t have the children to replace the old folks leaving. Now look. It’s gonna be this way for a while. You can’t undo demographics and people that didn’t have children the last 20+ years. The boomers sat and sucked the ***** dry keeping younger people now in their late 30s or mid 40s from getting promoted to make more money to pay bills and afford more kids.

Now the boomers that post on here are butthurt and miserable they can’t live the easy life of leasure while others wait on them hand and foot. It has little to do with people not wanting to work. There just aren’t the numbers and bodies to fill jobs and keep things going.
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Old 03-28-2022, 08:42 PM
 
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It likely will, the economy was better here in the 2010s than any time the last 50 plus years. However it was always fragile. Unless they get in migration there is little hope for growth in the pittsburgh area. Hard to do when you can’t compete with peer cities and job opportunities.

On a grander scale we are seeing those that were coming of age into adulthood in the mid 90s to mid 00s. This group of folks didn’t have the children as previous generations. Now you don’t have the teens or young adults from them to fill service jobs or fill supply chain jobs. This group didn’t have the children to replace the old folks leaving. Now look. It’s gonna be this way for a while. You can’t undo demographics and people that didn’t have children the last 20+ years. The boomers sat and sucked the ***** dry keeping younger people now in their late 30s or mid 40s from getting promoted to make more money to pay bills and afford more kids.

Now the boomers that post on here are butthurt and miserable they can’t live the easy life of leasure while others wait on them hand and foot. It has little to do with people not wanting to work. There just aren’t the numbers and bodies to fill jobs and keep things going.
Funny how you think you know when folks should retire so others can have their jobs, and even moreso blaming those mean old boomers for wanting or needing to work as you obviously don’t know their financial situations. Plenty of younger folks have taken the opportunity to better themselves and getting better paying jobs. Many simply have no desire to do so and want it handed to them as entitlement and the demand for free stuff runs rampant. If any of what you said is true most every young person would be making low income wages, and that’s certainly not the case.

Also haven’t seen any boomers here complaining they can’t live the easy life of leisure while others wait on them hand and foot.
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Old 03-29-2022, 05:25 AM
 
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Funny how you think you know when folks should retire so others can have their jobs, and even moreso blaming those mean old boomers for wanting or needing to work as you obviously don’t know their financial situations. Plenty of younger folks have taken the opportunity to better themselves and getting better paying jobs. Many simply have no desire to do so and want it handed to them as entitlement and the demand for free stuff runs rampant. If any of what you said is true most every young person would be making low income wages, and that’s certainly not the case.

Also haven’t seen any boomers here complaining they can’t live the easy life of leisure while others wait on them hand and foot.
Boomers are to blame for the population decline. They left pittsburgh in a pile. They created the hand it to them generation. They stayed in their jobs too long and lived for the day. Reaping the benefits of the silent generation that invested in roads and schools. The boomers left us a broken mess. They rode this country hard and into the ground. I say good riddance.

Boomers are the worst and the most entitled butt hurt generation of old folks ever. I’ve seen plenty that expect the easy life and waited on hand and foot.
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Old 03-29-2022, 05:37 AM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Boomers are to blame for the population decline. They left pittsburgh in a pile. They created the hand it to them generation. They stayed in their jobs too long and lived for the day. Reaping the benefits of the silent generation that invested in roads and schools. The boomers left us a broken mess. They rode this country hard and into the ground. I say good riddance.

Boomers are the worst and the most entitled butt hurt generation of old folks ever. I’ve seen plenty that expect the easy life and waited on hand and foot.
I did just wonderful amongst the boomers, just like many others have and are. All in how one wants to better themselves and how bad one wants it. Waiting around for folks to retire and blaming them for ones financial woes isn’t going to get one anywhere anytime soon, especially thinking one is entitled to their jobs.

Great for them. They earned that life by working for it.
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Old 03-29-2022, 06:49 AM
 
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Apparently, the Baltimore, Birmingham, Boston, Buffalo, Chicago, Cleveland, Detroit, Hartford, Honolulu, Los Angeles, Louisville, Memphis, Miami, Milwaukee, New Orleans, New York, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Rochester, St. Louis, San Diego, San Francisco/Oakland, San Jose, Seattle and Washington DC MSAs all lost population from 2020-2021, and the Minneapolis/St. Paul, Portland and Providence MSAs had zero growth! Wow, what a disaster for so many major MSAs across the United States!

Even worse, if you exclude the Boston, Chicago, Cleveland, Denver, Detroit, Los Angeles, Miami, Milwaukee, Minneapolis/St. Paul, New Orleans, New York, Philadelphia, Portland, St. Louis, Salt Lake City, San Diego, San Francisco/Oakland, San Jose, Seattle and Washington DC MSAs, then the Pittsburgh MSA had the largest numeric net decline to domestic migration of any major MSA in the United States! Everything is RUINED!
Of those ones, only Minneapolis and Salt Lake City had a slight uptick. That's kind of weird for Salt Lake City because Utah had one of the highest percentage of state increases. Possibly, the big growth was in smaller metro areas. It seems as it for the northeast, the smaller metros (Harrisburg, Allentown, Richmond, Hampton Roads, Portland Maine, etc.) were exempt from losing population, possibly due to people still wanting to be close enough to amenities but not as crowded of urban areas makes sense. In the midwest, Columbus, Indianapolis, Kansas City, and even Cincinatti had a slight uptick.
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Old 03-29-2022, 09:14 AM
 
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Brandon is a member of the Silent generation, as was Jimmy Carter. See anything familiar?



Who is Brandon and what does he have to do with this thread?
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Old 03-30-2022, 06:58 PM
 
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I'm curious, Any posters on CD remember when the greater Pittsburgh area had nearly 2.8 million residents (1950-1970)? Do you recall the region being much more vibrant and congested during those decades?
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Old 03-30-2022, 07:52 PM
 
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I'm curious, Any posters on CD remember when the greater Pittsburgh area had nearly 2.8 million residents (1950-1970)? Do you recall the region being much more vibrant and congested during those decades?
Or when Pittsburgh had 520,000 residents in 1970s? Was it crowded or felt crowded?

I remember talking to somebody that passed away a few years ago. She was talking about the city in the 60s. She said there was so many children and you couldn’t get on a ball field during good weather.

What was the highest enrollment of Pittsburgh public schools? In 1997 I think it was 40K. Today maybe 20k?
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