Pittsburgh MSA municipal population data (2020) (Washington, Butler: income tax, price, air quality)

[SteelCityRising]

Originally Posted by Independentthinking83

Or when Pittsburgh had 520,000 residents in 1970s? Was it crowded or felt crowded?

I remember talking to somebody that passed away a few years ago. She was talking about the city in the 60s. She said there was so many children and you couldn’t get on a ball field during good weather.

What was the highest enrollment of Pittsburgh public schools? In 1997 I think it was 40K. Today maybe 20k?

The average household size in the United States is now 2.60.

The average household size in Pittsburgh is now 1.98. I saw an article recently stating that Pittsburgh has one of the lowest percentages of its residents within city limits being under 18 in the country.

With that being said I believe the city's median age is only 33 (albeit I can't find that stat now). This means that despite having very few children we have a plethora of Millennials living in city limits that drags our median age down to being young.

We are also an educated city with nearly half of adults age 25 or older possessing at least a Bachelor's Degree. It's a shame our median wages don't reflect that because local employers generally don't pay well.

[Knepper3]

I think that makes sense in terms of most peoples way of life. Getting married and moving to the burbs is a stereotype because its often true. Aside from just not being a city person, I could not image trying to raise kids in the city at least when they are young. It would be so much more work on top of the work being a new parent.

[Independentthinking83]

Originally Posted by SteelCityRising

The average household size in the United States is now 2.60.

The average household size in Pittsburgh is now 1.98. I saw an article recently stating that Pittsburgh has one of the lowest percentages of its residents within city limits being under 18 in the country.

With that being said I believe the city's median age is only 33 (albeit I can't find that stat now). This means that despite having very few children we have a plethora of Millennials living in city limits that drags our median age down to being young.

We are also an educated city with nearly half of adults age 25 or older possessing at least a Bachelor's Degree. It's a shame our median wages don't reflect that because local employers generally don't pay well.

Maybe it is the college students that are making the cities median age 33. Pittsburghs wages and jobs growth are poor. That’s what stunts it’s growth. If you look at the cities growing in the north and Midwest (there aren’t many) it’s due to a very good economy and jobs growth. Washington DC, Indianapolis, Columbus and Grand Rapids have one thing in common. The jobs are aplenty and the wages paid are very good for each of their respective regions. I love Pittsburgh and I have said this before, we are kinda stuck in a no man’s land. Too Far East to be Midwest. Too far west to be considered truly northeast.

Growth and jobs stop at Columbus and Harrisburg with little left inbetween. You can see that clearly driving I-70. Drive from Harrisburg to Columbus or vice versa. What do you see in between, beautiful landscape but hardly any economic growth. Growth ends in Dauphin County, Pa and licking county, Ohio. I love the laurel highlands. I love wheeling area and small towns in between, but it is what it is. There isn’t much going on. Pittsburgh had a great 2010s. But it was always fragile. One little turn and we go back to negative. Not sure how you change it. Easier to build a chip plant on flatter land in Columbus than move mountains to build a plant here

[Nailerman9192]

Census bureau releases numbers for 2022. They have Allegheny County with a steep decline. Minus 12,000 plus residents. Philadelphia County lost more. PAs two largest counties are in the top 10 for population loss.

https://www.census.gov/newsroom/pres...-counties.html

[gg]

Originally Posted by Nailerman9192

Census bureau releases numbers for 2022. They have Allegheny County with a steep decline. Minus 12,000 plus residents. Philadelphia County lost more. PAs two largest counties are in the top 10 for population loss.

https://www.census.gov/newsroom/pres...-counties.html

Interesting. The largest growing are the usual with FL and TX counties dominating and AZ in there. None of it is really surprising though.

Thanks for posting this. I didn't think we would be that bad though. To make the top 10 in the US.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by Nailerman9192

Census bureau releases numbers for 2022. They have Allegheny County with a steep decline. Minus 12,000 plus residents. Philadelphia County lost more. PAs two largest counties are in the top 10 for population loss.

https://www.census.gov/newsroom/pres...-counties.html

No surprise. Living in fear and shutting down much of the state/s, which you were greatly in favor of has consequences, and folks leaving for greener pastures, and that includes many younger folks. Your state suffered greatly. https://www.thecentersquare.com/west...ddac8.amp.html

[Nailerman9192]

Originally Posted by gg

Interesting. The largest growing are the usual with FL and TX counties dominating and AZ in there. None of it is really surprising though.

Thanks for posting this. I didn't think we would be that bad though. To make the top 10 in the US.

Delaware, New Hampshire and Maine showed net in migration of residents in each county.

Unsurprisingly my West Virginia showed a natural population decline in 54 of 55 of the counties in the state.

Florida had seven counties in the top 10 for more deaths than births as well.

It looks like the New England area is really the only place in the north showing gains. Outside of that the big growth is still south and west.

I wonder if Michigan added more residents a lot of green colored counties in the detriot metro west to Lake Michigan. However wayne county lost residents but less than philly did.

[Nailerman9192]

Originally Posted by erieguy

No surprise. Living in fear and shutting down much of the state/s, which you were greatly in favor of has consequences. Your state suffered greatly. https://www.thecentersquare.com/west...ddac8.amp.html

West Virginia was open. Not sure what you are talking about. Yep we lost 10,000 residents statewide, but still did better and lost less than Allegheny County alone.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by Nailerman9192

West Virginia was open. Not sure what you are talking about. Yep we lost 10,000 residents statewide, but still did better and lost less than Allegheny County alone.

7th highest population loss in the country and that 10k is only in 1 years time, and 59k folks leaving the holler for greener pastures before that between 2010-2020. PA losing so many residents is no surprise as I said long ago that shutting it down and living in fear which you were greatly in favor of has consequences. I’m surprised they haven’t lost more, though folks continue to pour into Texas and DeSantisLand.

Folks that can see 15 minutes in front of themselves knew it was a be careful what you wish for scenario, and Wolf said he’ll second guess himself for the rest of his life. Such the fearful dullard.

[SteelCityRising]

Originally Posted by Nailerman9192

Census bureau releases numbers for 2022. They have Allegheny County with a steep decline. Minus 12,000 plus residents. Philadelphia County lost more. PAs two largest counties are in the top 10 for population loss.

https://www.census.gov/newsroom/pres...-counties.html

Thank you for sharing.

Allegheny County's numbers are disappointing but not surprising. I am also going to guess the city of Pittsburgh now has fewer than 300,000 residents.

I can't seem to access the tools at the moment due to an outage on the Census Bureau's web site, but I would guess Butler County and Washington County both grew again. I would also guess Beaver, Westmoreland, Greene, and Fayette Counties all continued their declines.