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Old 03-29-2023, 07:52 AM
 
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The state hospitals need to be reopened, and some people need to be sent there involuntarily.
The mental health system in this country is a bipartisan failure: conservatives dont want to pay for it, and the bleeding hearts dont want to hurt the feelings of anyone who is suffering from mental illness.
It’s a bipartisan failure because the baby boomers control the government and run things. They are more concerned about spending federal funds to purchase sand to fill the beaches and housing destroyed by hurricane Ian in Florida. More concerned that they have some warm beach home to retire on. It doesn’t matter that it will wash away again with the next storm.

But the other major issues like mental health and gun violence out of control, just take their thoughts and prayers. Do with it what you can…

The boomers run things and this is their creation. They are in charge. They let society become awash with guns and mentally ill people. All happening on their watch..

Columbine started with Clinton and events continued with Bush, Obama, Trump and now Biden (cusp silent generation boomer). All we have gotten is thoughts and prayers since 1999. Random acts of violence are the norm.

My best advice to anybody upset at this, vote for somebody who believes in democracy that isn’t a baby boomer. That’s the only way to change things. The government is stagnant right now and filled with boomers out of touch just offering thoughts and prayers and not governing. Things need to change.
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Old 03-29-2023, 08:02 AM
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There's been an increase in random violence recently throughout the city. I'm on edge.

I mean look at last year. Two women gunned down at a bus stop at Cedar Avenue because they were caught in the crossfire of two drug dealin' and/or gang-bangin' idiots.

The Brighton Heights funeral mass shooting had innocent bystanders injured.

Last week a woman gunned down in Homewood along with the man who was the actual intended target.

There was a shooting amongst teens in Marshall-Shadeland last August in which innocent bystanders had to duck and reported stray bullets "whizzing by them".

Now this cyclist in Bloomfield who was gunned down at random simply because the unchecked mentally ill are roaming around the city with no available resources to assist them.

Don't worry. On Friday afternoon the mayor is having some sort of thoughts and prayers type of rally in Homewood. That should fix everything. I am hopeful everyone who voted for Gainey is pleased with their decision. I voted for Peduto because despite seeming like a pompous, elitist arse he was actually moving the city at-large in the correct direction based upon the trends I was observing. The only ones who hated Peduto were suburbanites/exurbanites who hated bike lanes and East Enders who hate the police. We would have a new police chief by now if Peduto was still mayor, and we wouldn't have to worry about potentially only having 700 officers out of a budgeted 900 by 2025 if Peduto was in charge.
There is a rise in violence, but it is due to police not being able to be proactive. They know those that are armed and dangerous, but can't pull them over or really do anything anymore unless someone already gets shot. It is what it is. I have given ideas in the past with open gyms and mentors, etc., etc., but I think we are too late for that now. I think it will continue to get worse for anyone around cities. If you go out of Allegheny County, there are still laws and consequences. I know people in high level law enforcement that are most state wide and that is what I am being told. Allegheny County's style is a big factor in all of this.
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Old 03-29-2023, 09:14 AM
 
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There is a rise in violence, but it is due to police not being able to be proactive. They know those that are armed and dangerous, but can't pull them over or really do anything anymore unless someone already gets shot. It is what it is. I have given ideas in the past with open gyms and mentors, etc., etc., but I think we are too late for that now. I think it will continue to get worse for anyone around cities. If you go out of Allegheny County, there are still laws and consequences. I know people in high level law enforcement that are most state wide and that is what I am being told. Allegheny County's style is a big factor in all of this.
Just compare to the suburbs. Do you think criminals aren't arrested here? They are.
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Old 03-29-2023, 09:33 AM
 
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They might be but are the violent crime rates increasing the same? I have a local police car drive by my home usually 1-2 times a day and I am on a dead end area out of the way. 15 years here, I had one car break in that was just someone opening an unlocked car and taking some things.
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Old 03-29-2023, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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People also need to factor in population differentials when comparing crime trends. For example, there may have been more homicides in the early-1990's in the city, but there were also nearly 100,000 more people living in the city 30 years ago than there are today. Ergo, if there are 72 homicides in the city in 2023 when the city has almost exactly 300,000 people, that truly isn't really any better than having 98 (not sure if that's the correct number) of homicides in let's say 1991 when there were almost 400,000 people in the city. When people talk about the rise of violence in Pittsburgh they often say "the '90's were more violent". WERE they, though, when you factor in the 25% drop in city population since then?
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Old 03-29-2023, 11:26 AM
 
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Yes, I deal in data. You can find a statistic you like if you look hard enough so be sure to really look at what people are actually comparing.
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Old 03-29-2023, 12:20 PM
 
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People also need to factor in population differentials when comparing crime trends. For example, there may have been more homicides in the early-1990's in the city, but there were also nearly 100,000 more people living in the city 30 years ago than there are today. Ergo, if there are 72 homicides in the city in 2023 when the city has almost exactly 300,000 people, that truly isn't really any better than having 98 (not sure if that's the correct number) of homicides in let's say 1991 when there were almost 400,000 people in the city. When people talk about the rise of violence in Pittsburgh they often say "the '90's were more violent". WERE they, though, when you factor in the 25% drop in city population since then?
The violence was more concentrated in the 90s and it did appear worse to some. Back then you could escape the violence by moving to the suburbs or a nicer city neighborhood. Technology expanded the drug trade area. You no longer have city blocks overwhelmed by addicts.

In the mid 2010's county homicides started exceeding those within the city limits. Not to mention the caliber of street gun fights have changed.
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Old 03-29-2023, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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People also need to factor in population differentials when comparing crime trends. For example, there may have been more homicides in the early-1990's in the city, but there were also nearly 100,000 more people living in the city 30 years ago than there are today. Ergo, if there are 72 homicides in the city in 2023 when the city has almost exactly 300,000 people, that truly isn't really any better than having 98 (not sure if that's the correct number) of homicides in let's say 1991 when there were almost 400,000 people in the city. When people talk about the rise of violence in Pittsburgh they often say "the '90's were more violent". WERE they, though, when you factor in the 25% drop in city population since then?
Bingo…they’re simply continuing to deflect from the shootings and homicides today under the current regime. The truth is unpopular when it comes to Big Ed’s incompetence.
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Old 03-29-2023, 05:33 PM
 
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People also need to factor in population differentials when comparing crime trends. For example, there may have been more homicides in the early-1990's in the city, but there were also nearly 100,000 more people living in the city 30 years ago than there are today. Ergo, if there are 72 homicides in the city in 2023 when the city has almost exactly 300,000 people, that truly isn't really any better than having 98 (not sure if that's the correct number) of homicides in let's say 1991 when there were almost 400,000 people in the city. When people talk about the rise of violence in Pittsburgh they often say "the '90's were more violent". WERE they, though, when you factor in the 25% drop in city population since then?
So what is driving the violence in Pittsburgh? I read today that there were hoax calls for an active shooter in the metro. What is going on in the Pittsburgh area?

Did you ever think of relocating elsewhere to another regional city where you won’t have daily worry or anxiety about being an innocent victim of a crime?

Pittsburgh just really seems to be a weird place where violent or terrorist acts occur more frequent than elsewhere. I read the news for a lot of regional cities it just seems the amount of random acts of violence against innocent bystanders is unique to Pittsburgh. Maybe it’s due to the amount of poverty? It seems like a very old white city when I visited back a few weeks ago.
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Old 03-29-2023, 06:08 PM
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Just compare to the suburbs. Do you think criminals aren't arrested here? They are.
They might get arrested, but if they go to the county/downtown then they will get a slap on the wrist at best. I should know, I am friends with some people in the know. They are pretty hight up and we talk frequently. If you are up in Forest County for example and you commit a little crime, you will be punished, but around here they will just laugh and let you go. It is what the left wanted and they got it. They won.....or did they?
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