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Am I the only one who gets sick of people moving here from other countrys and waving their home flags in our face and we aren't susposed to say anything about it, I can say that if the hispanic population would stop acting like they are still in Mexico and start taking pride in where they are at and wave an American flag or two more people would think that they actually wanted to be a citizen of this country and maybe try and help them become one, The same goes for Puerto Ricans waving their flags from Puerto Rico, which is a U.S. territory, not a country, if you've ever been to Miami then you'll know what i'm talking about, I'm not prejudice or anything and have no problem with any race, but when you come to America you show her some respect, it seems like talking about your old girlfriend to your new girlfriend all the time and after a while she gets tried of it, When in America act like you're in America, we don't care what country you came from as long as you are productive and helpful in this country and not a criminal.
I doubt you have asked yourself why this would bother you so much.
I remember a couple from Finland asked me a question after 9/11. They were not citizens of the US yet, but they wanted to fly a US flag as many other people did after the attack. But the did not know if it was appropriate. So, instead, the flew the flag of their home country.
Am I the only one who gets sick of people moving here from other countrys and waving their home flags in our face and we aren't susposed to say anything about it, I can say that if the hispanic population would stop acting like they are still in Mexico and start taking pride in where they are at and wave an American flag or two more people would think that they actually wanted to be a citizen of this country and maybe try and help them become one, The same goes for Puerto Ricans waving their flags from Puerto Rico, which is a U.S. territory, not a country, if you've ever been to Miami then you'll know what i'm talking about, I'm not prejudice or anything and have no problem with any race, but when you come to America you show her some respect, it seems like talking about your old girlfriend to your new girlfriend all the time and after a while she gets tried of it, When in America act like you're in America, we don't care what country you came from as long as you are productive and helpful in this country and not a criminal.
the same reason that americans overseas wave the flag there. why you so worried about what other people do anyway, that's very unamerican. mind your own business
Am I the only one who gets sick of people moving here from other countrys and waving their home flags in our face and we aren't susposed to say anything about it, I can say that if the hispanic population would stop acting like they are still in Mexico and start taking pride in where they are at and wave an American flag or two more people would think that they actually wanted to be a citizen of this country and maybe try and help them become one, The same goes for Puerto Ricans waving their flags from Puerto Rico, which is a U.S. territory, not a country, if you've ever been to Miami then you'll know what i'm talking about, I'm not prejudice or anything and have no problem with any race, but when you come to America you show her some respect, it seems like talking about your old girlfriend to your new girlfriend all the time and after a while she gets tried of it, When in America act like you're in America, we don't care what country you came from as long as you are productive and helpful in this country and not a criminal.
........we also no longer care if they bother to assimilate either. I don't know about the puerto ricans but mexican nationals are taught the us "stole" most of their country from them. They are taught they should reclaim their lost territories thru a process called reconquista. Basically it amounts to simply walking across the border and occupying the place. Naturally our glorious leaders have ignored all this and just look at them as cheap labor and potential votes. Our leadership sucks of course.
the same reason that americans overseas wave the flag there. why you so worried about what other people do anyway, that's very unamerican. mind your own business
Where have you seen this happening,in what nation was it?
The irony, is that it can get much worse. in britain, it's considered hateful to fly the union jack there!
I think there are two main reasons for this
1. Differing traditions of immigration (plus America's history of large scale immigration goes back a lot further than Britain's which only got going in the 1950s). I think traditionally America has had a 2 pronged approach to how to treat immigrants. 1) Encourage immigrants to *become* American, and 2) simultaneously allow to keep original identity - ie don't push people to have internal conflict about their identity
"I am tall but also have brown hair" My tallness doesn't negate my brown hair, and my brown hair doesn't negate my tallness. It isn't a competition between the two
Britain approached this question in a different way imo. Immigrants were never truly encouraged to *feel* British - and this has had a big effect down the line, immigrants were sort of left to do their own thing, and "tolerated" (very loaded word that!) but not properly absorbed in the same way.
2. The United States is a true state-nation, but Britain is a complicated mix of state-nation grafted onto a nation-state, and the British flag is complicated, with regard to Scotland and Northern Ireland
I think its...rather odd status there (it isnt flown by regular people) is some of the 2nd point, but a lot the 1st.
People *become* American a lot more easily than they *become* British (people *become* French much less than either, but thats a whole other story!)
As to whether it annoys me, I'd say no, not really. I'm pretty fine with people displaying facets of their identity in whichever way they choose. I have no problems with seeing Greek, Uruguayan or Confederate flags displayed.
Also I think people with dual or more complex identities often highlight the thing that makes them "stand out", though what makes them stand out, is often different in different places (I have a danish-american friend who is american when she's in Esbjerg and danish when she's in Pittsburgh)
1. Differing traditions of immigration (plus America's history of large scale immigration goes back a lot further than Britain's which only got going in the 1950s). I think traditionally America has had a 2 pronged approach to how to treat immigrants. 1) Encourage immigrants to *become* American, and 2) simultaneously allow to keep original identity - ie don't push people to have internal conflict about their identity
"I am tall but also have brown hair" My tallness doesn't negate my brown hair, and my brown hair doesn't negate my tallness. It isn't a competition between the two
Britain approached this question in a different way imo. Immigrants were never truly encouraged to *feel* British - and this has had a big effect down the line, immigrants were sort of left to do their own thing, and "tolerated" (very loaded word that!) but not properly absorbed in the same way.
2. The United States is a true state-nation, but Britain is a complicated mix of state-nation grafted onto a nation-state, and the British flag is complicated, with regard to Scotland and Northern Ireland
I think its...rather odd status there (it isnt flown by regular people) is some of the 2nd point, but a lot the 1st.
People *become* American a lot more easily than they *become* British (people *become* French much less than either, but thats a whole other story!)
Mexican Immigrants Prove Slow to Fit In
Why Mexicans assimilate at rates lower than newcomers from other parts of the world
By Bret Schulte
Posted: May 15, 2008
Mexicans associate themselves with their native country before the United States.
In the heart of California's iconic Orange County—home to Disneyland and the bourgeois teens of MTV's Laguna Beach—is troubled Santa Ana. The county seat of 353,000, where nearly 6out of every 10 adults over age 25 lack a high school diploma, suffers from crippling poverty and an explosion in crime. In 2004, the Nelson A. Rockefeller Institute of Government placed Santa Ana at the very top of its Urban Hardship Index—officially dubbing it worse off than Miami, Detroit, Cleveland, and Newark, N.J. With 76 percent of its population Hispanic, mostly Mexican immigrants, Santa Ana is the poster child for the troubles of the country's immigration policies and of Mexican immigrants in particular.
Now, a new study lays bare what sociologists and others have long argued: Mexican immigrants are assimilating to life in the United States less successfully than other immigrants. Sponsored by the conservative Manhattan Institute think tank, "Measuring Immigrant Assimilation in the United States" by Jacob Vigdor, a professor of public policy studies and economics at Duke University, introduces a novel assimilation index that uses census and other survey data to measure how similar select immigrant groups are to native-born Americans. Using such factors as intermarriage, English ability, military service, homeownership, citizenship, and earnings, Vigdor assembled a 100-point assimilation index. The closer to 100, the more assimilated an immigrant group. Overall, the report shows immigrants are weaving into the American fabric at a remarkable clip, despite arriving poorer and knowing less English than immigrants of a century ago. And they are gaining speed, with new arrivals assimilating faster than those who came more than 20 years ago. With a score of 53, Canadians are the most assimilated, followed closely by Filipinos, Cubans, and Vietnamese. The main outlier: Mexicans, with a score of 13—followed by Salvadorans..........
Where have you seen this happening,in what nation was it?
everywhere. uk, europe, africa, mid east. everywhere i have been. i liked to put it in my window in london. loved pissing the "interfere in everyone's business" types. normal people who aren't projecting the dissenchantment with the world don't give a toss about flags
I fly an Irish flag, not just on St. Patricks day either. I know several people who still fly confederate flags, there is a massive one when you are driving down I65 in Alabama.
A man must know where he came from, to know where he is going.
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