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Exactly. Gay people have a tendency to believe that they were "born that way." There is not evidence to back this up, however there is evidence to back up that there is innate sexuality that is predisposed toward heterosexuality. Judge Walker is trying to make up rights. There is no right to marriage in the Federal Constitution. States have been given the discretion to make up marriage law. Homosexuality is not a protected class, whereas race is, and they are trying to use the equal protections clause to justify the ruling, but the EPC was designed to prevent "black codes" and other discrimination against former slaves and African-Americans. It is a shame that the left-wing is trying to use our courts to advance their agenda.
Because people mostly use the word "abnormal" to try to justify discriminating against homosexuals.
I'm not saying that you are, and I will say that you are correct in the tense that you are using the word "abnormal".
However, the connotation of the word being negative is because so many have tried to use that word as justification for being bigoted towards homosexuality. As Renault proves.
That's the problem with political correctness though. People have a right to have opinions, ones that you don't agree with. While I think that gays should have equal rights, it's still factually correct to say that homosexuality is abnormal.
I wonder if a liberal can even admit that a gay couple cannot procreate. That two people of the same sex cannot produce a child,an dif they use some kind of scientific intervention, the child will still only biologically be related to one of the couple, not both.
Yes it very much is on this case it is. Hence this thread.
Can women be judges on cases where women's rights are an issue?
Can black judges sit on cases where racial issues are being decided?
The question isn't whether a judge has a characteristic that is at play in a case. The question is whether a judge can render an unbiased decision.
In order for all of you to make your case that this judge's decision is biased, you would need to read the decision and identify where, in the opinion rendered, there is bias.
This case was about a state discriminating against a class of people. They didn't make a case to justify that discrimination. So far, no one on C-D has made a case to justify the discrimination. If you cannot justify discriminatory legislation, then our Constitution requires that legislation to be reversed. Because our Constitution was expressly designed to protect the rights of ALL Americans. And for those of you who say marriage is not a right, that is the height of hypocrisy. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The fundamental rights we are promised. If you are not free to commit to another human being, and to have the state acknowledge your commitment, as they recognize the commitments of others, then what kind of liberty do you enjoy? Don't tread on me? The correllation is don't tread on others, either.
Or else it would be legal to discriminate based upon sexual orientation.
@Topic: No matter what, there would have been bias.
Anyone who actually read the court transcripts can clearly see that the Prop 8. lawyers didn't have a case.
It is legal in most states to discriminate based on sexual orientation. The congress has not passed protections for sexual orientation. Many state owned universities like University of Virginia, University of Utah, etc. discriminate based on sexual orientation for admissions. Employers in many locations discriminate and do not provide reciprocal benefits.
Is this thread attempting to say that a judge who happens to be gay cannot set aside their personal sexuality bias and make an honest best effort at rendering a decision based on legal interpretation?
If that's the case, then should we not apply the same logic any straight judge who renders a verdict against it? Will we then see threads saying "Prop 8 federal judge was STRAIGHT?"
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