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I was never anti Muslim until 911, then I realized how much they hate us and will do anything to destroy Israel and the west. They are a sneaky lot and will use any guise to get at us. They will never stop hating until we are gone. You and others need to wake up and smell the coffee, they will smile in your face and stick a knife in your back.
We've got enough American bigots here too, anti-gay, anti-minority. We don't need the Islamic kind as well. The muslims should go back to the ratholes that they came from.
Obviously, there is more history involved than our current al Qaeda involving Muslims.
I would like for you to put me on Ignore, because after this post, you will be on ignore. Mainly because I learn nothing from your posts and so it's a waste of time for me.
This thread is about Al-Qaida! You started it. It is not about all muslims having more blood on their hands. The statement was as the thread titel says "US has more blood on hands than Al Qaida". Forgot about that?
"We tend to forget, in the West, that the United States has more Muslim blood on its hands than al-Qaeda has on its hands of innocent non Muslims," Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf said in 2005.
Logic, reason and fact have no place on the city-data forums. Please don't antagonize the right-wingers, Christofascists, Islamophobes and other bigots with your historical facts and knowledge.
But it helps to explain why some terrorist groups hate us. They don't really care if we are Muslim or not, they would rather their countries and regions be left alone.
In that sense, many here who have been anti Muslim have much in common with the terrorists that have and want to attack us.
The point is, stop the senseless hate and violence, and there will be less death.
This is what is called moral relativity, something leftists and Muslims (who have made common cause against the West) are practiced at. By this reasoning the Americans and their allies in WWII were probably as morally culpable as the Nazis and their allies--the Fascists and the Japanese--because we likely killed more of them than they killed of us. In this way of thinking the only moral position is pacifism--which ensures that only the pacifists are killed and brutalized.
This is what is called moral relativity, something leftists and Muslims (who have made common cause against the West) are practiced at. By this reasoning the Americans and their allies in WWII were probably as morally culpable as the Nazis and their allies--the Fascists and the Japanese--because we likely killed more of them than they killed of us. In this way of thinking the only moral position is pacifism--which ensures that only the pacifists are killed and brutalized.
No, it's not the same, and I'm neither a leftist nor a Muslim.
The extremist Muslims did not set their cause against the West until the west went over there and starting screwing around with their governments and their lives. They hate ALL of us because of what our government and military has been doing there for the past half-century or so, and their twisted logic for attacking American civilians is that we supposedly choose our leaders who make the decisions that adversely affect Muslim civilians. So, they are over there screaming that All Americans Are Evil And Out To Destroy islam, while we have people over here screaming that All Muslims Are Evil And Out To Destroy The United States.
The actual term is "moral relativism." I suspect you have no idea what it means, since you have no idea what it's called. But to educate you, it has nothing to do with total body counts; it has to do with the real fact that most human beings are motivated by the same things. What motivated the Germans in Warsaw motivated the Americans and Britons at Dresden. What motivated Yeltsin in Chechnya motivated Lincoln in the Confederacy. What motivated the French In WW1 motivated the Germans in WW1. This is too obvious to anyone familiar with human psychology to need explanation.
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This is what is called moral relativity, something leftists and Muslims (who have made common cause against the West) are practiced at. By this reasoning the Americans and their allies in WWII were probably as morally culpable as the Nazis and their allies--the Fascists and the Japanese--because we likely killed more of them than they killed of us. In this way of thinking the only moral position is pacifism--which ensures that only the pacifists are killed and brutalized.
Al Queda is a more recent organization and is bad for the world... but the US DOES have much blood on its hand thoughout history.
See:
Our treatment of Native Americans in our early years
Our internment of Japanese Americans, Italian Americans and German Americans during WW2
Our involvement in Vietnam
Our current involvement in Afghanistan and Iraq
To those brainwashed individuals who think America is always right.....
We are NOT always right
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