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Old 09-09-2010, 07:57 PM
 
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I have my doubts if there are really that many 'moderates'...
I have my doubts that there are many logical moderates in the Right wing Christian wing. They are clearly the ones most ready to beef with right wing Muslims. Do we watch the fight play out in sick-real-time? Civilians of BOTH sides losing their lives????????
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Old 09-09-2010, 07:58 PM
 
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One can only imagine what might occur if their numbers became significant in the UK.

Race riot flared after Muslims were urged to confront right-wing protests - Times Online
"Birmingham’s top Muslim leader urged his followers to “vent their feelings” against anti-Islamic protesters during a weekend rally that ended in violence and dozens of arrests, The Times can reveal. "

The Education of Muslim Children in the UK - by Iftikhar Ahmad (http://www.islamfortoday.com/ukschools.htm - broken link)
"On top of that the British teachers as well as Muslim teachers born and educated in British institution have no respect for Islamic faith, culture and community languages. They mis-educate and de-educate Muslim children making them misfit not only for the Muslim community but also for the British society at large.
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If the Muslim community, their so called leaders and DFEE *** LEAs are really serious in raising the standard of education of the Muslim children than fundamental changes have to be made in the British educational system. Muslim children needs state funded Muslim schools for their proper growth and development."
Look at what is going on in a PUBLIC school in Dearborn, MI under Principal Fadallah.
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Old 03-09-2011, 02:55 PM
 
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Moral Equivalency Much? Ground Zero Imam Says King Hearing & Danish Cartoons Cause Islamic Terrorism like Ft Hood.

Someone tell this nice, peaceful, we're-not-trying-to-provoke-anybody Imam that the Fort Hood terrorist attack occurred long before the King Hearings and it's highly doubtful he lashed out because of Danish cartoons.
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Old 03-09-2011, 03:04 PM
 
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Moral Equivalency Much? Ground Zero Imam Says King Hearing & Danish Cartoons Cause Islamic Terrorism like Ft Hood.

Someone tell this nice, peaceful, we're-not-trying-to-provoke-anybody Imam that the Fort Hood terrorist attack occurred long before the King Hearings and it's highly doubtful he lashed out because of Danish cartoons.
Someone tell this clear-thinking Frenchman that the imam is saying that when a particular group feels persecuted and demonized by a society, like say when a Congressman states that 85% of mosques are headed by violent extremists, that they sometimes lash back. Ostracization does not lead to integration within a society, it leads to prejudice, discrimination and resentment.
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Old 04-26-2011, 11:17 AM
 
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Default Terrorism: using threats of violence to silence you.

Good to see somebody calling out that Dhimmi Michigan judge-



When Muslims threaten to misbehave, the constitution goes out the window

Read more: When Muslims threaten to misbehave, the constitution goes out the window | Philly Daily News
"Breaching the peace" is never grounds for keeping someone from speaking, unless those acts threaten imminent violence. n Brandenburg v. Ohio, the Supreme Court delineated the standard for judging inflammatory speech: speech cannot be prohibited unless it is (1) intent to incite to violence and (2) the likeliness that it will do so.

You could argue that the Koran "promotes terrorist activities around the world" would anger some people. I suppose you could even say that it is designed to make them angry.

But you can only agree that the Brandenburg test is met if that sort of speech is likely to incite people to violence. And to do that, you have to agree that Muslims are less capable of self-control than, say, members of the military or the LGBT community when faced with the evil Westboro Baptist crowd at funerals.
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