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Old 09-18-2010, 06:44 PM
 
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Thanks.

This is what I am looking at: Statutes & Constitution :View Statutes : Online Sunshine


Why can't it be argued that if she was truly in imminent danger, he would have found another way to take her to school? Secondly, had all other methods been exhausted? Did he go to the school board? Could he have made other transportation arrangements while waiting to...exhaust those methods? And what role, if any, does the bus as property play in this?

In addition, I find it amazing that they could play back the tapes of him rather quickly but not the tapes of the girl on the bus being tortured.
Why should a parent have to take time out of his/her day to avoid something that shouldn't be happening in the first place?

Any time something happens on a school bus the first place to go is to the school. They are supposed to deal with the student. The bus driver is supposed to be in charge of "his or her" bus that doesn't always happen and especially when the bus driver isn't a consistent face.

Are you thinking the girl was NOT bullied?
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Old 09-18-2010, 06:48 PM
 
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+1

I don't have a disabled daughter, but I do have 2 young kids. I agree, this dad let his emotions get out of control. Hypothetically, if I were in the same situation, this would have gone down real quiet-like. No cameras, no witnesses.
I think going "The Hand That Rocks The Cradle" style is the best.

Used it once on a nephew of mine during a family get together. Little #^&@ kept his hands to himself and his mouth shut for the rest of the event.
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Old 09-18-2010, 06:58 PM
 
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Your kids need to learn to fight their own battles.
So should my 8 year old and his best friend have knocked out the 5 year old who was hitting them both in the back of the head and spitting on them the other day on the bus for the third day in a row?
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Old 09-18-2010, 07:06 PM
 
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So should my 8 year old and his best friend have knocked out the 5 year old who was hitting them both in the back of the head and spitting on them the other day on the bus for the third day in a row?
They should have grabbed him by the ankles and drug his ass down to the bus driver and left him there.
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Old 09-18-2010, 07:19 PM
 
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They should have grabbed him by the ankles and drug his ass down to the bus driver and left him there.
Sorry, I'm still laughing!

Only problem is they would have gotten kicked out of school - would have made a great youtube video however!
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Old 09-18-2010, 07:44 PM
 
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It's about time.

The school bus drivers look the other way.

The kids on the bus look the other way.

The faculty at school looks the other way ( unless of course they end up on the 6 o'clock news or are being sued by a parent because their child committed suicide because nobody cared and it went on too long )...

Dad went bezerk but this is just the beginning because just like the movie " I am mad as H*ll and I am not taking it anymore ! " Dad and parents have had ENOUGH !
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Old 09-18-2010, 07:50 PM
 
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Why should a parent have to take time out of his/her day to avoid something that shouldn't be happening in the first place?

Any time something happens on a school bus the first place to go is to the school. They are supposed to deal with the student. The bus driver is supposed to be in charge of "his or her" bus that doesn't always happen and especially when the bus driver isn't a consistent face.

Are you thinking the girl was NOT bullied?
I think she was bullied. In fact, I'm operating from the stand point that she was bullied.
It isn't a question of why parents should have to take the time. Obviously, they shouldn't have to.

School boards adopt policies that are used to counter liability. And anytime that you are dealing with something of this nature you have to think in those terms. They are created and adopted against you as a child and a parent, not for you.

The Sheriff can tack on as many charges as he wants, however, it is up to the prosecutor to decide if charges and what charges should be filed. Let's say that all those charges are filed. So, what happens with the charges? The prosecutor can always offer to drop some off in a plea deal. So, lets say Dad pleas guilty to Disorderly in exchange for the state dropping the kidnapping charge.........see what I mean? Or he/she may prosecute to the fullest extent of the law. So, in defense you have to think in terms of the fullest extent of the law.
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Old 09-18-2010, 07:52 PM
 
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They should give the dad a job working schoolbus security
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Old 09-18-2010, 07:53 PM
 
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Sure is a lota vigilantyphobia floating around.
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Old 09-18-2010, 08:34 PM
 
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I think she was bullied. In fact, I'm operating from the stand point that she was bullied.
It isn't a question of why parents should have to take the time. Obviously, they shouldn't have to.
Thanks for explaining.

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School boards adopt policies that are used to counter liability. And anytime that you are dealing with something of this nature you have to think in those terms. They are created and adopted against you as a child and a parent, not for you.
Yep! Which is why my parents took me and my siblings right out of public school after getting a huge run-around after my 8 year old brother was (literally) picked up and thrown in to a desk (knocked the wind out of him, broke a rib) by a girl who didn't like the fact that the teach had to leave the class for a few minutes and he was the "monitor" - she acted up, brother wrote her name down, etc. Thing was this girl should have been in 5th grade. Not 3rd. She kept getting held back and obviously had a little bit of an anger issue. Her mother was an idiot (from the projects and of course and given my father's business in town, he knew her). No one took responsibility at any level. My parents kept getting the run-around.

Hello private school!

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The Sheriff can tack on as many charges as he wants, however, it is up to the prosecutor to decide if charges and what charges should be filed. Let's say that all those charges are filed. So, what happens with the charges? The prosecutor can always offer to drop some off in a plea deal. So, lets say Dad pleas guilty to Disorderly in exchange for the state dropping the kidnapping charge.........see what I mean? Or he/she may prosecute to the fullest extent of the law. So, in defense you have to think in terms of the fullest extent of the law.
Kidnapping?

My Dad got on the school bus one morning, back in the early 80's when bus drivers would smoke while driving, and told all the kids to shut the hell up and keep their GD hands to themselves and stay the hell in their seats or he'd knock their ****ing heads together (before the tossing of a little boy by big fat beast into a desk issue - and the beast was not on that bus). And he didn't do it b/c of his kids - he did it b/c we'd tell him about the jerks picking on 5 year olds and 1st graders and how bad it was.

This Dad should have called the parents of the a-hole kids. No, he should have showed up at the a-hole kids front doors and bring his daughter right along with him and asked the parents what they thought about what their stupid kid is doing to his daughter.

Unfortunately the apple never falls too far.
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