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You are avoiding the fact that Islam is just as much political as it is religious. If they are allowed to continue to hide behind that religious crap much longer they will take over without having to fire one shot. I still have to say that the Constitution was never intended to be handcuffs for our nation to eventually lose to something like Islam.
All religions are political. Look at the history of the Catholic Church. Political much?
Islam isn't hiding. They are simply accorded the same protections as all other religions per our Constitution. If people who are of the same mind as you succeed in eliminating those protections, you eliminate the protections for everyone, and our nation will have lost. Not to Islam, but to fear. That would be a tragedy, and I will fight for the Constitution against those of you who would destroy it, even with the best intentions.
All religions are political. Look at the history of the Catholic Church. Political much?
Islam isn't hiding. They are simply accorded the same protections as all other religions per our Constitution. If people who are of the same mind as you succeed in eliminating those protections, you eliminate the protections for everyone, and our nation will have lost. Not to Islam, but to fear. That would be a tragedy, and I will fight for the Constitution against those of you who would destroy it, even with the best intentions.
Does that mean you would let Muslims stone people to death under the guise of religious freedom?
Does that mean you would let Muslims stone people to death under the guise of religious freedom?
Is it against the law in the United States to stone people to death?
I would fight for the Constitution. The Constitution of the United States. In case you missed it in you history class, the Constitution of the United States is the law of the United States. It is the foundation for all law in the United States. It is the bedrock of the legal system. Why would I fight for law, and then let people break the law? Is that somehow logical to you?
Is it against the law in the United States to stone people to death?
I would fight for the Constitution. The Constitution of the United States. In case you missed it in you history class, the Constitution of the United States is the law of the United States. It is the foundation for all law in the United States. It is the bedrock of the legal system. Why would I fight for law, and then let people break the law? Is that somehow logical to you?
To Muslims that would be religious freedom wouldn't it? So right there you contradicted yourself. You also showed yourself that Islam is incompatible with our Constitution, correct? So Muslims WOULD have to have their religious freedoms taken away here in America correct?
I think that there is zero chance that we will be asked to put Sharia alongside our legal system, since our government is expressly prohibited from promoting religion.
I think it perfectly fine to discuss the Muslim Brotherhood and its goals, and how that impacts Americans. I think it is Unconstitutional to try to pass any laws that would restrict the free practice of religion in this country. If we can live with Satanists, we can live with anything else.
Zero chance for sharia to be alongside our legal system? Don't hold your hopes up too high, ten years ago not many of us thought 19 muslim terrorists would be able to fly jetliners into the World Trade Center towers and the Pentagon, and crash a 4th one in Pennsylvania, and murder close to 3,000 innocent people, but it did happen on September 11th, 2001.
Zero chance for sharia to be alongside our legal system? Don't hold your hopes up too high, ten years ago not many of us thought 19 muslim terrorists would be able to fly jetliners into the World Trade Center towers and the Pentagon, and crash a 4th one in Pennsylvania, and murder close to 3,000 innocent people, but it did happen on September 11th, 2001.
I think ten years ago, many of us did think that there was a potential risk of terrorist attacks on US soil. Did any of us have the degree of specificity you seem to set as a standard? No. But then none of us can see into the future. As for Sharia law alongside our legal system. Do tell us how one religion is going to get around the Constitution? Has our Constitution stood firm for over 200 years against the efforts of fundamentalist Christians to impose their religion on our legal system? Why yes, it has. Against a religion that is practiced by the MAJORITY. But suddenly the Constitution is too weak to stand up to the efforts of a Religious and Political MINORITY???? As long as Americans uphold the Constitution, then no religious group will be able to impose its beliefs upon all Americans. If you and those who think like you succeed in tearing apart our Constitution, then it's not Sharia Law that I will be afraid of.
Do tell us how one religion is going to get around the Constitution?
The same way we see it advancing in Europe in coutries that also have provisions against a state-sponsored religion. In fact, it is making great progress in England which HAS a state-sponsored religion (Anglican Church).
Islam morphs to be what its followers need it to be. Remember, it is a religious system, a political system, a military system, a social system, and an economic system. Muslims are stressing its political elements now because that is how they can gain the most ground in Western societies that respect freedom of religion. When they need to advance their cause in other ways they will push other aspects of it, such as the political system. They will make a case for Sharia courts for Muslim vs Muslim ruleings. They already have this in Canada (it is optional and both parties have to agree to it).
Look to the Netherlands to see how they advance their adgence and how freedom of speech suffers.
The same way we see it advancing in Europe in coutries that also have provisions against a state-sponsored religion. In fact, it is making great progress in England which HAS a state-sponsored religion (Anglican Church).
Islam morphs to be what its followers need it to be. Remember, it is a religious system, a political system, a military system, a social system, and an economic system. Muslims are stressing its political elements now because that is how they can gain the most ground in Western societies that respect freedom of religion. When they need to advance their cause in other ways they will push other aspects of it, such as the political system. They will make a case for Sharia courts for Muslim vs Muslim ruleings. They already have this in Canada (it is optional and both parties have to agree to it).
Look to the Netherlands to see how they advance their adgence and how freedom of speech suffers.
We don't have "provisions" against a state-sponsored religion. We have a Constitution that expressly forbids it. As long as the Constitution is supported by Americans, there is a bulwark against ANY religion imposing itself on our legal system. As for people settling things outside the legal system by arbitration, there is nothing wrong with that. Whether it's in Canada or Britain or in the United States. We certainly do let people resolve issues by religious counseling. That goes TO freedom of religion, not against it.
Too often CAIR suggests that we have broken laws aimed to protect them and others like them. You have got to get some studying of CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood done when you get a chance.
And maybe you need to get some stydying on the meaning of Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat. You can't just 'go after' some group because someone posted something in the internet saying some other group thumped their chest and made an inane sermon to appease their listeners.
The burden of proof, Roy, the burden of proof...... this is still a country of law and order.
It's an invasion of our common consciousness as Americans. They're trying to undermine the values of this nation by challenging them.
How very true you are, i agree with you, they are most or less implying that our Nation has no values! And have made it perfectly clear, they do not agree with the morals of our Country.
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