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Thats what your upset about? The planning meeting is HOW TO WIN FUTURE ELECTIONS. Nothing wrong with supreme court justices attending such strategy meetings.
I might not be able to list Supreme Court Justices helping to write legislation but that doesnt mean its never happened. In addition, this turns out not to be a legal strategy meeting but an ELECTION strategy meeting..
I bet it has happened but that doesnt mean your liberties are gone. It would be gone if they would RULE on those laws but YOU CANT LIST ONE EXAMPLE of that taking place.. CAN YOU?
Um, their agendy is the same as Democrats.. Put forward a platform to cause people to vote for them. Do you think Democrats dont do the same?
There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with people attending strategy meetings on how to win elections. Supreme Court Justices, even presidents do it.. Heck, I've been to one.. More fake left wing outrage!!
I'm sorry that you don't understand the bedrock, Constitutional principles of the separation of powers and of checks and balances.
Mmmmmmm you can't tell the difference between being a speaker and participating, yup we have a Democrat voter.
And they of course linked to another huffington pos piece.. How shocking
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Nobody knows what they did there. It's all shrouded in secrecy.
Tip: Those who hide what they do have a reason to hide it.
You dont disclose to those on the other side what your strategy will be in coming elections. Do you really think Obama and Clinton shared strategies on how they were going to win the Democratic nomination?
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I'm sorry that you don't understand the bedrock, Constitutional principles of the separation of powers and of checks and balances.
Fortunately, most people in this thread do.
You and I will just have to agree to disagree.
There is no separation of powers in regards to campaigning. If they were writing laws, (which you above acknowledge you have no idea what they were doing) then they would have to recluse themself from the court challenge if one would appear. Individuals are free to support any political party they choose, and yes, this includes Supreme Court Justices..
You can imagine there is a conflict, just like the Huffington POS author did, but that doesnt mean one exists unless you can articulate exactly what it is..
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Here's a story about another gathering of the Republican uber-rich. That in itself is not remarkable as the Koch's have been funding these things for years.
What's interesting is this from page 2 of the article:
"...And he notes that previous guests have included Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas of the Supreme Court, Gov. Haley Barbour and Gov. Bobby Jindal, Senators Jim DeMint and Tom Coburn, and Representatives Mike Pence, Tom Price and Paul D. Ryan..."
Why are Supreme Court justices involved in planning sessions for either political party? What business do they have involving themselves in partisan politics?
That is just not acceptable behaviour for a Justice of the Supreme Court- or any judge for that matter. They are supposed to be neutral and above politics. There should be a full investigation and even possible removal from the bench for this kind of stuff.
That is just not acceptable behaviour for a Justice of the Supreme Court- or any judge for that matter. They are supposed to be neutral and above politics.
No, they aren't. They are human beings with their own views and ideas.
A judge is there to interpret the law. The only way something like this would be a problem is if the judge blatantly disregarded the law in order to force an issue to conform to his political beliefs.
The entire reason we have nine Justices on the Court is balance. They are being asked the most difficult legal questions possible. Of course their viewpoints are going to come in to play. We have nine Justices in order to balance things out.
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No, they aren't. They are human beings with their own views and ideas.
A judge is there to interpret the law. The only way something like this would be a problem is if the judge blatantly disregarded the law in order to force an issue to conform to his political beliefs.
The entire reason we have nine Justices on the Court is balance. They are being asked the most difficult legal questions possible. Of course their viewpoints are going to come in to play. We have nine Justices in order to balance things out.
When you put a robe on, your personal politics should be left outside the door. Being a liberal, if I were a judge, I would love to rule in favour of the liberal side of every case that came before me. For example, you fire an employee and the employee sues and says they have a RIGHT to a job and you had no justifiable cause to dismiss them. As a liberal, I would love to find for the employee in that case. But as a judge, I know that employment at will is the law of the land even if I do not agree with it. And I know that I must rule for the employer and against the employee.
Now, if I went to a meeting of big labour unions and made a speech there saying "I support your agenda and the rights of workers 100 percent" and then walked into my court Monday and ruled for the worker and against the employer despite what the law says, don't you think that the employer would have every right to think he was treated unfairly? That is exactly why judges should be very careful about political activity of any kind.
Here's a story about another gathering of the Republican uber-rich. That in itself is not remarkable as the Koch's have been funding these things for years.
What's interesting is this from page 2 of the article:
"...And he notes that previous guests have included Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas of the Supreme Court, Gov. Haley Barbour and Gov. Bobby Jindal, Senators Jim DeMint and Tom Coburn, and Representatives Mike Pence, Tom Price and Paul D. Ryan..."
Why are Supreme Court justices involved in planning sessions for either political party? What business do they have involving themselves in partisan politics?
The Supreme Court is juat as partisan as the rest of our system. Get over it already and blow them all out.
If ANY political party or ANY ideology manages to control the Legislative branch and the Executive branch of our government, AND has a complaint Judiciary willing and able to follow instructions, that is nothing less than a defacto coup, the end of our Constitutional government. It reduces our great experiment in self rule to a state which is similar to any banana republic or dictatorship in the world. And, inviting sitting Justices of the highest court in the land, and having them attend and participate, is as clear an evidence as you can find that those who shape and direct Republican politics are engaged in doing just that.
It doesn't really surprise me that so few people see it. After all, most American's aren't even conversant on the subject of the Constitution, let alone able to decipher it's importance to our freedom and, hence, are not able to defend it.
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