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Old 10-30-2010, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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So how was the rally? Ive gotta be honest with you, I didnt pay a bit of attention to it. Though I was scrolling through the TV this evening and saw something on Univision, so I stopped. Saw a scene with Ozzie on stage, not sure what that was about. I dig Ozzie's music but why was he there?
It was Yusuf's Peace Train (for the sanity side) vs Ozzy's Crazy Train (for the Fear side).

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Oh well, I dont know what the plan was for the rally, what the point was, but if they managed to have a good time, while keeping it clean and with no bashing of this person or that person or this group or that group, and if they cleaned up after themselves then I guess good for them.

The only problem I would have with this rally is that the sole purpose of having it seemed initially just to mock Beck and anyone else who isnt a liberal. I was a bit irritated that the coverage of this rally by the media seemed to be fair. Yet when Beck held his, he was constantly ridiculed and bashed by most of the media, even the ones who held the rally today. But oh well, I expect liberal media/hollywood biased......but it still sickens me no matter how much I am use to seeing it.

You will see in it what you want to see.
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Old 10-30-2010, 10:55 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Oh my goodness.

CBS "estimates" the crowd at 215,000, using the same methodology they used to estimate Beck's at 87,000 (even though the park service said approx 325,000, NBC said at least a couple hundred thousand).

This is 215,000 according to CBS:

Political Hotsheet - CBS News

But the pic on the left is only 87,000. Compare side by side with the rally today:

http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/beck-stewart.jpg (broken link)

Is there really no depths the MSM won't sink to in their deceit?

And notice the schematic under the pics. That really tells the story.

I did predict it, didn't I?
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Old 10-30-2010, 10:57 PM
 
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Going on 3 hours now... Still no one to denounce Hitler/Bush signs?
I am pretty sure it was parody but in case it wasn't, I here by denounce the Hitler signs as being of low rent, poor taste, and not even funny.


btw, did you ever find that donut shop?
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Old 10-30-2010, 11:05 PM
 
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Oh my goodness.

CBS "estimates" the crowd at 215,000, using the same methodology they used to estimate Beck's at 87,000 (even though the park service said approx 325,000, NBC said at least a couple hundred thousand).

This is 215,000 according to CBS:

Political Hotsheet - CBS News

But the pic on the left is only 87,000. Compare side by side with the rally today:

http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/beck-stewart.jpg (broken link)
Is there really no depths the MSM won't sink to in their deceit?

And notice the schematic under the pics. That really tells the story.

I did predict it, didn't I?
"The company sometimes uses these images for crowd estimates, both generating its own estimates and partnering with Professor Stephen Doig of Arizona State University, a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist and crowd estimate expert, to come up with figures. For President Obama's inauguration last year, the company worked with Doig and GeoEye satellite data to generate a crowd estimate on behalf of CNN that was cited by the Associated Press and other news outlets.

"To calculate attendance at the Beck rally, AirPhotosLive.com used what is called a surveillance aerostat balloon to take pictures from both above the event and closer to the ground. In the video above, which was provided by the company, you can see some of the images used to come up with a figure.

"The balloon, Westergard said, gave the company the capacity to move up and down, allowing it to photograph people who were standing beneath trees in addition to taking photos from high above.

""We took a lot of shots under the trees and higher up by just changing the balloon altitude," he said. "So what might have been a negative with an airplane and certainly a negative with a satellite was a very strong position with a balloon."

more details

Glenn Beck "Restoring Honor" Rally Crowd Estimate Explained - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

Though Doig and AirPhotosLive.com employ slightly different methodologies, both use a method that involves laying grids over the high-resolution images and counting the density per unit of each grid cell. Westergard provided the image below to help show how the estimates are made. It's of a Tea Party Express event on April 15th that the company calculated attracted 4,436 people.
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Old 10-30-2010, 11:07 PM
 
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Where is that picture of the Stewart rally from?
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Old 10-30-2010, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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The point: they are full of liberal BS. The park service estimated Beck's rally at 325,000, NBC at 200K+.

All one really needs to do is look at the pictures and the "space" taken up by the attendees. Simple.
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Old 10-30-2010, 11:10 PM
 
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I see paranoia has taken over for some. Wish I could've attended.
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Old 10-30-2010, 11:14 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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The point: they are full of liberal BS. The park service estimated Beck's rally at 325,000, NBC at 200K+.

All one really needs to do is look at the pictures and the "space" taken up by the attendees. Simple.

I thought the park service wasn't allowed to estimate crowd sizes. When did that change.
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Old 10-30-2010, 11:16 PM
 
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Going on 3 hours now... Still no one to denounce Hitler/Bush signs?
Not me. If you like the Obama Hitler posters, good for you.
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Old 10-30-2010, 11:19 PM
 
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The point: they are full of liberal BS. The park service estimated Beck's rally at 325,000, NBC at 200K+.

All one really needs to do is look at the pictures and the "space" taken up by the attendees. Simple.
The AirPhotosLive place surveyed both rallies.

How is Crowd Size Estimated? | Who Estimates Crowd Size? | Life's Little Mysteries

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