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Old 12-02-2010, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Meteorology is presented as science.

So is medicine.

In both cases, they get it wrong a LOT.
But they both get it right a lot more than you flipping a coin or praying to a god.

 
Old 12-02-2010, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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If you don't take your umbrella, and it rains anyhow, what are you going to think of the weather guessers then?
Not their fault. I'm the one who gambled on the 30%.

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Hey, they did say there was a CHANCE of rain.
Exactly. They gave me the facts, and I made my judgment.

See how that works?

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During the day, I have a better grasp on it just looking out the window. But it's night by the time I head to work, lately, and I can't use the sky as an indication.
You do not have a better grasp on it. We already established that yesterday. They are far better at making accurate predictions than you are.
 
Old 12-02-2010, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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No, scientists present their beliefs as fact, that we will all be able to rely on, whereas religion says, "This is what WE think."...which may not be the case over their whole body of worship. I disagree strongly with a number of doctrinal principles of the last church I was a member of.
Nothing in that paragraph is true. Now I see why you are so dismissive of science. You don't know know the first thing about it.

And as for your pretense that religion is tentative... you do know that "dogma" is a religious term, right?
 
Old 12-02-2010, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Science cannot reproduce what already happens in nature, and you expect us to honor it? To show it anything but contempt?
"Honor it?"

What the hell are you talking about?
 
Old 12-02-2010, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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But there is still a difference between what is an effect, and what is a cause. There is a logical fallacy that takes about confusing the two.
Oh? And what logical fallacy is that?

Because it is an empirical fact that all causes are also effects.

You have yourself been unable to provide an example of a single cause that was not. In spite of having been asked at least four times.
 
Old 12-02-2010, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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It can't create a planet with just the right atmospheric mix of gases, and distance from the sun to sustain human life.
Yet.

You keep forgetting that critical qualifier.
 
Old 12-03-2010, 04:42 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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If I gave you forever (and there's no such thing as infinity), it still wouldn't happen.
 
Old 12-03-2010, 04:43 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Nothing in that paragraph is true. Now I see why you are so dismissive of science. You don't know know the first thing about it.

And as for your pretense that religion is tentative... you do know that "dogma" is a religious term, right?

I'm willing to bet that I know more about science than you do, if you'd be willing to take a test?
 
Old 12-03-2010, 04:55 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Then you should never leave your house...You are a danger to others.
How? I'm not sick.
 
Old 12-03-2010, 05:38 AM
 
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Big problem for atheists is they can't come up with anything to replace Christmas. Try taking it away without something to replace it with. You really think the public would stand for it?
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