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Old 12-08-2010, 02:43 PM
 
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So much for Freedom of Religion, huh? Ending all Muslim immigration would involve passing laws against a religion. I think our Constitution has something to say about that.
Congress gets to decide who comes in and who doesn't. That's why there are quotas for different countries.
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Old 12-08-2010, 02:49 PM
 
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Congress gets to decide who comes in and who doesn't. That's why there are quotas for different countries.
Not all Muslims are in Muslim countries.
In fact the country with the 3rd largest Muslim population on the planet, India, is not a Muslim country but a secular country in which the majority religious group is Hindus, and Muslims are only 13% of the population.
Russia has a very large Muslim population and it is not nor has ever been anywhere close to Muslim majority (in fact opposition to Islam is a big part of the Russian national identity, and prior to 1917 Russia was like a Christian Saudi Arabia)
Many Asian and African countries which are not Muslim-majority have large and long rooted Muslim minorities.
Other Western countries have Muslim minorities as do many Latin American countries.
You couldn't keep out Muslims just by national origin quotas.
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Old 12-08-2010, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Which of course is why we spend American blood & $$$ to bring democracy to them, right?
...and build their nations. So sad really when you consider that the money that they would/should be spending to build their nations is instead being used to help support the fight against the United States. In the meantime, our nation in its current economic condition spends its money on building their nation. And who knows if the money sent there actually gets spent nation-building - I would not be surprised if some of it went to those fighting us...
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Old 12-08-2010, 02:54 PM
 
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So much for Freedom of Religion, huh? Ending all Muslim immigration would involve passing laws against a religion. I think our Constitution has something to say about that.
There is no separation of politics and religion with Islam.
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Old 12-08-2010, 02:55 PM
 
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Congress gets to decide who comes in and who doesn't. That's why there are quotas for different countries.
You're not advocating quotas. You're advocating discrimination against Muslims immigrating to this country solely based on what God they worship, what holy book they read. This country was founded on the precept of Freedom of Religion. If you advocate religious discrimination, you are against Freedom of Religion.
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Old 12-08-2010, 02:58 PM
 
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There is no separation of politics and religion with Islam.
Love your sense of humor, ergohead!

Of course, this is clearly untrue. Billions of Muslims live peacefully in countries that are not ruled by theocracies. All religious zealots, Muslim, Christian, or any other group, would like to impose their beliefs and values on the general population they live within, but that doesn't happen. Even in theocracies, such as Iran, there are religious zealots who don't believe the government goes far enough.
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Old 12-08-2010, 02:59 PM
 
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...and build their nations. So sad really when you consider that the money that they would/should be spending to build their nations is instead being used to help support the fight against the United States. In the meantime, our nation in its current economic condition spends its money on building their nation. And who knows if the money sent there actually gets spent nation-building - I would not be surprised if some of it went to those fighting us...
In the case of Pakistan, said money DEFINITELY goes towards fighting us - and Wikileaks only confirmed this further.
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Old 12-08-2010, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Lowell, MA
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There is a difference between those of the Muslim faith:

Suni Muslims are terrorists, not all mind you, a handfull that follow the beliefs of Bin Laden, which the Saudi's have ousted because of his terrorism against the U.S.

When a non-muslim reverts into Islam they take a given name, that is why Antonio Martinez aka Muhammad Hussain referres to himself by his given name, not his birth name.

The F.B.I. and C.I.A. have passed themselves off as Muslims to obtain information on those Muslim Mosques that plot terrorist attacks.

Sheit Muslims aren't terrorists: they follow the beliefs of the Holy Qur'an.

Only an Imam or the Grand Ayatollah of Iran can call upon a Holy Jihad.

FACTS: for those of you whom need them.

I went ahead and highlighted the functions of the Grand Ayatollah of Iran.

I agree, the faith of Islam is growing in the US and will continue to grow, per our constituational rights to freedom of religion. We should also have a better screening system of those who enter the country under false pretense i.e. students, employment.....but are really here to spread terrorism!!!!!!


Supreme Leader of Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Functions and duties of the Supreme Leader
  1. Delineation of the general policies of the Islamic Republic of Iran after consultation with the Nation's Expediency Discernment Council.
  2. Supervision over the proper execution of the general policies of the systems.
  3. Issuing decrees for national referendums.
  4. Assuming supreme command of the armed forces.
  5. Declaration of war and peace, and the mobilization of the armed forces.
  6. Appointment, dismissal, and acceptance of resignation of:
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Old 12-08-2010, 03:06 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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All for the love of Allah right! Peaceful loving People all in the name of their Religion. Bull crap, the majority of these PEOPLE, not all most, still will like to see the very face of this Nation collapse, and all of us killed. They hate our freaking guts, and they can put on their fake faces, most not all, are still out to get us. All in the name of their peace loving Relgiion, believe this, your nuts.
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Old 12-08-2010, 03:09 PM
 
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Sheit Muslims aren't terrorists: they follow the beliefs of the Holy Qur'an.
Hezbollah aren't terrorists?
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