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I find it amusing how people decide to boycott a business based on how the employees are treated as if they know for a fact that the businesses they frequent treat employees well.
I won't shop at Walmart because I don't like the way they treat their employees. Compare them to Costco (where people make decent wages) and it's just not worth it.
Because Costco might pay better or have better benefits. That happens in every business. I work for a huge ad agency and it doesn't pay as well as the smaller ones. Should our clients boycott my company?
I know two people who work at Walmart and they love it. They started stocking shelves and worked their way up.
I won't shop at Walmart because I don't like the way they treat their employees. Compare them to Costco (where people make decent wages) and it's just not worth it.
You do understand those people are not forced to work there. I don't see what that has to do with a person shopping there, I shop where I get the best deal.
Taken a look at brand new furniture these days. Had to research and look and look until i could find American Made, and yes it was more expensive. Every Furniture Store i visit, Even the more elaborate, Furniture Stores have furniture from China, if you know furniture, you don't even have to ask, you can tell. I like brands that state made in America. But yes they are hard to find. And much more expensive, but worth it to me.
Indeed they are. With the internet it is fairly simple to research brands made in the USA, or our ally countries. While significantly few manufacturers exist good furniture is still made in North Carolina. I'd rather buy at antique stores, estate sales, etc... than send money for China to build its military or factories.
what i don't respect about americans is their hypocrisy. they are capitalists but pretend they are moral and democratic. they label others evil and dirty communists or socialists yet capitalism is actually in principle the one that is dirty and immoral.
this is what makes americans one of the most hypocritical people.
In principal, capitalism is the most moral and ethical system there is.
Every transaction produces two winners. The buyer wants the goods; the seller wants the money. When they trade, both are better off.
If you don't want the market to make decisions, then what? The government? Yeah, they did such a good job with public education and the postal service and inspecting BP's wells...no thanks.
Other posters are all lit up about China. I happen to think there is some beauty in having a Walmart in Peoria that sells products from all over the world, purchased by people who build Caterpillars to send all over the world. Trade lets us get more for everything we produce, and pay less for everything we use. That's why producers tend to like it.
Walmart provides the best employment opportunity available to over a million Americans. I can tell that they pay fair wages, because the people show up for work.
Final point: I own Walmart! Almost anybody can buy a percentage share of ownership, get a piece of the action. And they send you a share of profits every quarter. It's pretty nice.
So yeah, if you take away my freedom to shop where I want, put the gvernment in control of everything instead of the market, pretend that jobs do not pay enough when the people are glad to have them...yes, you're evil and dirty and a socialist.
none of these people have an entrepreneurial spirit. look at how many people want to buy american. all you would have to do is rally together a lot of people and build your own business. there is plenty of support for that now.
what is difficult about trying to make it yourself rather than complaining that there is none made in america?
i bet if there was a made in america website that sold everything made in america or someone opened a store that was all made in america nationwide, it would not only give people jobs but it would be competition for walmarts.
this is the right timing for it as there will be plenty of shoppers and supporters.
In principal, capitalism is the most moral and ethical system there is.
Every transaction produces two winners. The buyer wants the goods; the seller wants the money. When they trade, both are better off.
If you don't want the market to make decisions, then what? The government? Yeah, they did such a good job with public education and the postal service and inspecting BP's wells...no thanks.
Other posters are all lit up about China. I happen to think there is some beauty in having a Walmart in Peoria that sells products from all over the world, purchased by people who build Caterpillars to send all over the world. Trade lets us get more for everything we produce, and pay less for everything we use. That's why producers tend to like it.
Walmart provides the best employment opportunity available to over a million Americans. I can tell that they pay fair wages, because the people show up for work.
Final point: I own Walmart! Almost anybody can buy a percentage share of ownership, get a piece of the action. And they send you a share of profits every quarter. It's pretty nice.
So yeah, if you take away my freedom to shop where I want, put the gvernment in control of everything instead of the market, pretend that jobs do not pay enough when the people are glad to have them...yes, you're evil and dirty and a socialist.
You have ZERO understanding of what capitalism is.
Capitalism is based on gain by private ownership and essential serfdom. you must have plebes in order to gain or those working FOR you. Capitalism is about gain, not equitable trade.
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Indeed they are. With the internet it is fairly simple to research brands made in the USA, or our ally countries. While significantly few manufacturers exist good furniture is still made in North Carolina.
you mean the ally countries are white countries, right?
No, actually a lot of crappy furniture is also made in america. there is this self-delusion among americans that made in america is synonymous with quality. that's mostly an exaggeration. there were shoddy to quality products that were and still are made in america. lower-priced products were always of less quality than higher-priced the majority of the time.
that's where the term 'you get what you pay for' comes from. why jobs need to come back is not so much because they are made overseas or because of quality or lack of quality but because americans need their jobs and also make their own products as well or at least they need to bring most of the jobs back. now, people must remember that these products made in china are not really chinese, they are just made there. they aren't selling you chopsticks, that for sure.
I agree that it's hard to buy American and be able to afford it. Thing is we dug this hole and we need to dig ourselves out. Don't blame Wal-Mart for making our lives easier instead drive to a local small store that dose rebuilds and used microwaves. Every town has a Home Depot it seams but there lumber is the worst. warped and wet not really good for much. Instead if your looking to build a fence see if you can get supplies from the local landscaper.
Right now your still gonna have to deal with made in China. That's because we allowed it to become that way as Americans. Start where you can and eventually it will come back home. Maybe not in my life time but we dug a big hole with a backhoe and we have to start digging out of it with a spoon. Start small and think big.
Fact is I'm still gonna buy from Wal-Mart when the need arises and I am not gonna have ill feelings for them because they are sucessfull. However when I can get the same prodect new or used at the same or lower price I will do just that.
You have ZERO understanding of what capitalism is.
Capitalism is based on gain by private ownership and essential serfdom. you must have plebes in order to gain or those working FOR you. Capitalism is about gain, not equitable trade.
you mean the ally countries are white countries, right?
No, actually a lot of crappy furniture is also made in america. there is this self-delusion among americans that made in america is synonymous with quality. that's mostly an exaggeration. there were shoddy to quality products that were and still are made in america. lower-priced products were always of less quality than higher-priced the majority of the time.
that's where the term 'you get what you pay for' comes from.
Do not twist my post just because you have a twisted ideology. Nice, not only do you define Capitalism from the Marxist perspective but you are a race baiter too, no wink washes that one clean.
Do not twist my post just because you have a twisted ideology. Nice, not only do you define Capitalism from the Marxist perspective but you are a race baiter too, no wink washes that one clean.
no, i define capitalism for what it is.
and are allied countries non-communist? what makes a country worthy of being allies?
i'm bringing up a good point. it's just as prejudicial to think china is against you. how is it that they are? because people took manufacturing there.
maybe people should think before they make others out to be enemies.
btw, everything lenin prophesied about capitalism came true and america is a resounding and almost near perfect example as well that it's spooky. that people did not understand it even then or foresee it is what's remarkable because of it's common sense inevitablity.
Last edited by rory00; 12-11-2010 at 08:11 PM..
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