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BTW. I am not knocking the NRA. I just am not as passionate as dad was about it and he often spoke of basic rights of honest citizens versus criminals.
The only reason ANYONE knows the NRA is because the big government, communists, anarchists and socialists use organizations like the ACLU (perhaps) to try and take guns away from people using Judges to thwart the 2nd Amendment (I think).
I am not a NRA member, but I do get they exist as a defense to attacks from the left who are trying IMO to give government total power over what people can and can't do.
I think Americans should be able to defend themselves. I don't want us to be Mexico where the criminals have machine guns bought with drug money (sorry libertarians) and the citizens are left to throw bottle caps at them.
The NRA are defense, not really offensive like ACLU (formerly the American Communist Lawyers Union).
The NRA used to be a key leader in training Police, Boy Scouts and others in the Proper Safe use of a firearm. As a wee lad and i do mean a wee lad, 4 years old i was already working on NRA marksman badges, trained by something we seem to have lost most of these days. That would be Men.
Men who knew How To do many things, and one was train Police, and other would be men, still Boys.
The NRA was doing that long before 1951 when I was born, but I have been around plenty long enough to have seen the anti gun moo-vement.
I saw the anti's attack hand guns, then it was rifles, and then it was black powder guns of all things, and then back to pistols and with the most unusal names. No one could go to a gun store and buy any gun with these names, because there was no such thing.
The antis rant and rave, and we gun men pretty well have come to the understanding that there is some mental incapity with in the minds of these rabid anti's, and we would just like them to be silent.
The guns and whats left of the Men are not going to go away because the left can't deal with proper child rearing.
I have properly raised a male child, and if he went gangsta on me i would beat him senceless, and worry about the left later. For better than 50 years now the anti left has whined and whined and we Pro gun men are plain sick of that whine.
Right now my son is in the sand, and when he gets back he will return to raising his son almost 2 now. I plan to make damn sure his son knows a life with guns, hunting target shooting, and defending the CONS from the enemy foriegn and domestic.
Seems to me we got more of the domestic if you ask me.
Good point, and so far as it goes for anti's I think we should take their cars way. Cars are a lot more complicated than a gun is, and can do far more damage used as a weapon than a gun can. It is pretty plain to me that if a simple machine called a fire arm is so overly complicated to the anti's then they have no bee's wax behind the wheel.
About the most complicated guns have up to 3 controlls, which is far less than any cars I have ever known.
Hell these days people are challanged just plain walking.
Good point, and so far as it goes for anti's I think we should take their cars way. Cars are a lot more complicated than a gun is, and can do far more damage used as a weapon than a gun can. It is pretty plain to me that if a simple machine called a fire arm is so overly complicated to the anti's then they have no bee's wax behind the wheel.
About the most complicated guns have up to 3 controlls, which is far less than any cars I have ever known.
Hell these days people are challanged just plain walking.
Good point, and so far as it goes for anti's I think we should take their cars way. Cars are a lot more complicated than a gun is, and can do far more damage used as a weapon than a gun can. It is pretty plain to me that if a simple machine called a fire arm is so overly complicated to the anti's then they have no bee's wax behind the wheel.
About the most complicated guns have up to 3 controlls, which is far less than any cars I have ever known.
Hell these days people are challanged just plain walking.
Yesterday I would have laughed about takings cars.
We had a bad "road rage" attack with a death in our area.
Yesterday I would have laughed about takings cars.
We had a bad "road rage" attack with a death in our area.
Truly sad.
Driller, some one 'go off' in a car and use it as a weapon?
I dunno this me me me generation is lost.
Can't do anything right, not even walk.
Maybe there should be an age limit on guns after all. Like if your 16 now you can never own, and if your 30 you're need to be mentally tested, and if yer 50 yer exempt.
Driller, some one 'go off' in a car and use it as a weapon?
I dunno this me me me generation is lost.
Can't do anything right, not even walk.
Maybe there should be an age limit on guns after all. Like if your 16 now you can never own, and if your 30 you're need to be mentally tested, and if yer 50 yer exempt.
But for cars too.
The investigation is ongoing.
Looks like car one pulled out in front of car two.
Car two ran them off the end of a road 1/4 mile from the first occurrence.
"Tuesday night after the speech, Obama adviser David Plouffe said to NBC News that the president would not let the moment after the Arizona shootings pass without pushing for some change in the law, to prevent another similar incident. “It’s a very important issue, and one I know there’s going to be debate about on the Hill.”"
However to be accurate it should say this instead.
"Tuesday night after the speech, Obama adviser David Plouffe said to NBC News that the president would not let the moment after the Arizona shootings pass without pushing his campain, and change in the law, to prevent another similar incident. His campain is an very important issue, and 'The One' knows there’s going to be debate about that with Hilliary.”
Unless everyone there wants to go home like was done a few years ago, they better fix the economy first and fore most. If they can do that which I doubt, then later after that works, they can hammer out some other laws, like make the tax code something the people can understand.
Maybe decide just how much auto coolant in pet foods is legally acceptable or something other than INFRINGING a Right the Govt never gave to any man alive or dead yet.
As for protecting your rights from the government, I think that maybe in the 1700's and 1800's, your typical hunting rifle is pretty on par with what the Army would have. You could probably get away with using it in battle. In today's world, your civilian model AR-15 isn't going to do squat to a tank, black hawk, or drone. If the government wanted to take your rights by force, they can. The best defense against that is really to stay educated.
I think you should try that line of reasoning when explaining to every family who has a vet that has been killed in action the Middle East. They have no tanks, no big missles, and are lightly armed there. I wouldn't say the US miliitary has made a big difference in Afghanistan, yet every week we see, if you look beyond the MSM, dead and maimed bodies returing from there.
When GB was conducting the war in Iraq, we had a body count almost every day. No mind, but when the military leaves there, the warlords will take back over and the US won't have made much of a difference except that it removed a despotic ruler who gassed his own people. Corruption in government is worse than ever and the Iraq Parliament is already being pressured to share power with the Taliban.
Look at the Irish Republican Army. They brought the Brits to their knees in Northern Ireland. They forced the Brits to the peace table through their guerilla tactics and that gave way to Shin Feinn
So to say that rebels can't beat a regular army is to deny the truth of what has happened in the ME, and other parts of the world, over the last 10 years.
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