Shouldn't all consenting adults be allowed to marry? (fence, agent, family)
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Momonkey - So the loss of respectability is the real problem. How is respectability a legal problem?
Why should the sex of the committed adults matter? Why is a religiously acceptable marriage more respectable than a secular marriage? Why, for that matter is being married more respectable than being a couple with arrangements to take care of the children if any?
Most importantly, why should I and my partners care about what you, your church or society in general consider respectable. I just want my arrangements to be as legal as yours.
How would my friends Ric & Jacob getting married change the definition, meaning and significance or YOUR marriage? Please be specific.
They cannot answer that simple question, it has been asked many many times and no one has yet stepped up to the plate and explained their own rhetoric. I, for one, know that my marriage would not be affected in the least by allowing loving gay couples enjoy the same union. Not mention the rights and benefits enjoyed by married couples that are not allowed to gay couples or even single heterosexuals for that matter. It all comes down to religious beliefs, something that should not be driving the laws and rights applied to the people of this nation.
Casper
You don't get to use fake motives for gays insisting on marriage while turning up their noses at civil unions. Civil unions could be structured to provide the same identical benefits and rights as marriage, but gays have no interest in civil unions because they don't address the real issue. Gays want desperately to rid themselves of the stigma of being gay. Civil unions, no matter the legal structure, will never make gays feel "normal". To do this, they will make the rest of us a little less normal by forcing us to associate ourselves with gay sex through the institution of marriage.
You just don't understand...you act as if you know what we want...but you don't know.
If gay marriage is going to make you feel less normal than you have much deeper problems.
You just don't understand...you act as if you know what we want...but you don't know.
If gay marriage is going to make you feel less normal than you have much deeper problems.
Proven by the simple fact that none of them is able to answer a question as to just how their marriage would "change" were gay couples able to marry legally.
<SIGH> Will people ever stop using this ridiculous strawman?
People might be allowed to marry their pets after pets obtain the ability to legally enter into a contract. Can Fido sign a lease or get a loan? No? There's your answer.
That scenario is absurd in the extreme and has no bearing on TWO ADULTS consenting to enter a legally binding "marriage".
Yes, it does have bearing. We have had a "one man and one woman" definition of marriage for a long time. Now some people want to change the definition to "any two humans".
So, while we are changing the definition, why not liberalize it completely. Why not open up to plural marriage. Why not open up to marriage between a human and their pet.
And who are you to make a rule that the pet has to be able to legally enter into a contract?????? Pets don't legally enter into a contract to be "owned" by a human either. But that does not mean they cannot be owned.
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