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Old 02-08-2011, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Originally Posted by seattlerain View Post
Unless you are a homosexual please refrain from speaking like you represent us.

I as a homosexual care nothing about the "stigma"...I stopped caring about it over thirty years ago.

Given the choice of just one, would you prefer gay marriage identical to that of heterosexuals or civil unions with equal benefits and rights?
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Old 02-08-2011, 09:05 PM
 
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Until only fairly recently, it was still "normal" that a man could not be charged for raping his wife. Laws in the last 20 years against rape in marriage redefined what was accepted as "normal" by society.

I'm sure that didn't "suit" a lot of husbands.

For years it was "normal" in our society for only free, white, male, property owners to be allowed to vote. Voting was redefined and now it is "normal" for anyone... male, female, black, white, landowners, renters to vote as long as they are over 18.

I'm sure that didn't "suit" many white male property owners.

Here's the question again...

"The problem with redefining "normal" to suit your own fancy is that it doesn't necessarily suit someone else. With that in mind, who are you, or anyone else, to limit the number of consenting adults of either gender or sexuality who may marry one another?"
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Old 02-08-2011, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Somewhere Out West
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Given the choice of just one, would you prefer gay marriage identical to that of heterosexuals or civil unions with equal benefits and rights?
First off there is no such thing as gay marriage or straight marriage - there is just marriage.

If you wish to define the marriage of 2 people of the same gender, the best description is equal marriage.

To identify their marriage as anything but says they are not equal.

When you go around and start saying heterosexual marriage or straight marriage in everyday conversation, then you can qualify marriage between 2 people of the same gender.

Oh yeah to answer your question - all marriage should be equal. Full Stop.
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Old 02-08-2011, 09:33 PM
 
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Bzzzzt! Stop right there. We're talking about the legal union only. This has nothing to do with anyone's culture or religion. Well, nothing other than the fact that a lot of Christians in this country seem to think, incorrectly, that their religion owns the word "marriage".

The word "marriage" is the entire issue here. Only by using the same word which describes a heterosexual marriage will gays be able to hijack married heterosexual's respectability.
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Old 02-08-2011, 10:01 PM
 
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How would my friends Ric & Jacob getting married change the definition, meaning and significance or YOUR marriage? Please be specific.

It changes the meaning of the word "marriage".


Ric and Jacob need to get their own word, but that won't happen because the point to gay marriage is to hijack the respectability associated with this word.
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Old 02-09-2011, 12:08 AM
 
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Pets are not consenting adults.

You've never met my adult dog. He'll try to hump anything, with consent or otherwise...
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Old 02-09-2011, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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It changes the meaning of the word "marriage".


Ric and Jacob need to get their own word, but that won't happen because the point to gay marriage is to hijack the respectability associated with this word.
here's the definition of the word from dictionary.com:
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mar·riage  [mar-ij]
–noun 1. a. the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc.

b. a similar institution involving partners of the same gender: gay marriage.



2. the state, condition, or relationship of being married; wedlock: a happy marriage.

3. the legal or religious ceremony that formalizes the decision of two people to live as a married couple, including the accompanying social festivities: to officiate at a marriage.

4. a relationship in which two people have pledged themselves to each other in the manner of a husband and wife, without legal sanction: trial marriage.

5. any close or intimate association or union: the marriage of words and music in a hit song.

6. a formal agreement between two companies or enterprises to combine operations, resources, etc., for mutual benefit; merger.

7. a blending or matching of different elements or components: The new lipstick is a beautiful marriage of fragrance and texture.

8. Cards . a meld of the king and queen of a suit, as in pinochle. Compare royal marriage.

9. a piece of antique furniture assembled from components of two or more authentic pieces.

10. Obsolete . the formal declaration or contract by which act a man and a woman join in wedlock.


Could you point out what part of this definition would change? And what part of the definition infers 'respectability'?
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Old 02-09-2011, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Neither here nor there
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It changes the meaning of the word "marriage".


Ric and Jacob need to get their own word, but that won't happen because the point to gay marriage is to hijack the respectability associated with this word.

How about "homo-marriage" and "hetero-marriage"?

I have to agree on your point about the respectability associated with the word "marriage".
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Old 02-09-2011, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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How about no more marriage.. Everything is a civil union, and marriage is for name only and is done by your church.
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Old 02-09-2011, 10:06 AM
 
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This.

I also have no problems with incestuous relationships.

As long as all parties are of legal age and consenting, then there should be nothing that says they can't get married.
So you're saying that you wouldn't mind having sex with your Mother?
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