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My Republican friend said he thinks 70% of the 53 billion $$ if approve would go towards the NE were Rail is well used and causes massive redevelopments..... Even during the Bush era , the NE was pampered by Republicans and alot of redevelopment occurred. A population shift is underway in the Megapolis form auto suburbs to Railway suburbs.....which is also feeding the Railway usage spike. Towns and cities are building up there downtowns and making them dense and walkable.... There competing with each other....hehe. There are 18,000+ miles of Railway that should be restored either by private or public funding for Passenger Rail.... Connecting all the Northeastern cities and large towns..... Those of you against this , are mostly outside the NE and are either rural folks , jealous or uneducated on the subject of diverse transportation....
or we are just tired of having money forcibly taken from us to pay for someone elses special interests (i.e "diverse transportation" )
Most of you red staters are just welfare queens as most red states don't actually pay a net penny in taxes. Whine to me about having money forcably taken from you when your state actually net pays taxes.
Most of you red staters are just welfare queens as most red states don't actually pay a net penny in taxes. Whine to me about having money forcably taken from you when your state actually net pays taxes.
or we are just tired of having money forcibly taken from us to pay for someone elses special interests (i.e "diverse transportation" )
Okay - so the problem is not railroads, but public funding.
So CHANGE the system.
Instead of public (taxpayer) funded rail, with all its political baggage, just STOP taking tax money from rail.
Demand that government institutes a ZERO tax liability for any electric traction railroad company and its employees that ONLY builds, manufactures, installs, operates or maintains said railroads. That way, the only way it prospers is by serving the customer - not a bureaucracy, nor insiders, nor power grabbing politicians.
That solves the financing problem, gives incentives for rapid progress, and steers the industry to seek moving the most people for the least cost. It won't cost the taxpayer one non-silver dime.
Can you guess how big a job boom there will be?
Oh, right, government was instituted to serve government's needs, increase its power, increase revenues, and burden the people - my mistake.
Rant? That's the hard reality. Red state, except for a very few exceptions, are welfare queens which don't pay net taxes. Whine about taxes after your state actually pays net taxes.
Okay - so the problem is not railroads, but public funding.
So CHANGE the system.
Instead of public (taxpayer) funded rail, with all its political baggage, just STOP taking tax money from rail.
Demand that government institutes a ZERO tax liability for any electric traction railroad company and its employees that ONLY builds, manufactures, installs, operates or maintains said railroads. That way, the only way it prospers is by serving the customer - not a bureaucracy, nor insiders, nor power grabbing politicians.
That solves the financing problem, gives incentives for rapid progress, and steers the industry to seek moving the most people for the least cost. It won't cost the taxpayer one non-silver dime.
Can you guess how big a job boom there will be?
Oh, right, government was instituted to serve government's needs, increase its power, increase revenues, and burden the people - my mistake.
That's not a new idea and while I like the notion the reality is that has never worked any where in the developed world. The reason is simple: without use of eminent domain it becomes almost impossible to build the lines because one stubborn old git could stop everything no matter how much social good would come from the improvement of infrastructure. Private industry can't use eminent domain while government can because government's primary purpose is to serve the public good.
Okay - so the problem is not railroads, but public funding.
So CHANGE the system.
Instead of public (taxpayer) funded rail, with all its political baggage, just STOP taking tax money from rail.
Demand that government institutes a ZERO tax liability for any electric traction railroad company and its employees that ONLY builds, manufactures, installs, operates or maintains said railroads. That way, the only way it prospers is by serving the customer - not a bureaucracy, nor insiders, nor power grabbing politicians.
That solves the financing problem, gives incentives for rapid progress, and steers the industry to seek moving the most people for the least cost. It won't cost the taxpayer one non-silver dime.
Can you guess how big a job boom there will be?
Oh, right, government was instituted to serve government's needs, increase its power, increase revenues, and burden the people - my mistake.
So rail won't pay taxes, but motorists, airlines and bus companies will?
Unless we all get the break, you're just using a different way to subsidize and create a privileged industry (for an insignificant amount of ridership to boot).
That's not a new idea and while I like the notion the reality is that has never worked any where in the developed world. The reason is simple: without use of eminent domain it becomes almost impossible to build the lines because one stubborn old git could stop everything no matter how much social good would come from the improvement of infrastructure. Private industry can't use eminent domain while government can because government's primary purpose is to serve the public good.
Boy you're a hoot.
You want the federal government to confiscate my money and my land to run a choo choo train for a privledged few.
Boy you're a hoot.
You want the federal government to confiscate my money and my land to run a choo choo train for a privledged few.
Why not? They already do it for roads and airports.
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