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Yea right. It shows the ignorance of the governor when it comes to the budget and legislature. Most of the staff for individual members are part-time volunteers and interns. And the legislature's funding is not something he has control over until the entire budget is done.
Meanwhile, Walmart in WI gets their tax cut. That is the most important thing, right? Give money to a company which sells products made overseas and puts up instructions for their employees on how to apply for public assistance since they don't pay a living wage.
Not really. You see in order to filibuster you actually have to show up to work.
When unionized liberalism reared its ugly head WI democrats turned their tails and fled.
To be fair, there is no filibuster rule in WI politics. They have used the only strategy to prevent the Gov. from ramming the bill through. The Unions have already said they would accept pay cuts, benefit reductions and whatever else it takes to balance the budget and do it through the negotiation table. The gov. does not want to negotiate. What they will not accept is the arbitrary cancellation of their collective bargaining power. This fight is really cut and dried. The republicans want to smash the power of the unions once and for all. The Democrats believe in the rights of the workers to collective bargain for their benefits and pay. The battle lines are drawn. We'll see how it plays out.
LOL--more like told the governor to take a walk, which under the circumstances, I respect. It's about time people in this country started to stand up for what they believe is right, vs. acting like sheep and accepting whatever statehouses and the feds do. I don't agree with lots of things the tea party stands for, but I was always glad that at they showed that there were still American's willing to stand up for what they believe in. This is no different (except for the fact that there are 10x the number of people involved, and the numbers are growing daily). It's about time. I think the R's have finally woke up a sleeping giant--the middle class--and they're TICKED OFF.
Let me point out the difference to you....
- The Tea Party protested because their elected officials refused to listen to the will of the people.
- The Tea Party used the democratic process to elect like-minded people and get rid of those that refused to listen
- The Tea Party did not disrupt and make threats against elected officials to the point that the legislature had to be shut down
- The Tea Party was a true grassroots movement
- The Republicans in WI are actually doing what their electorate wanted them to do
- The AstroTurf mobs are being sent by the DNC, SEIU, and other special interest groups, unions, and political activist organizations
- The AstroTurf mobs in WI are actually protesting against democracy
- The AstroTurf mobs in WI are not using the democratic process to elect like-minded representatives or to vote out those who they don't agree with, but instead are shutting down democracy
- The Tea Party protested because their elected officials refused to listen to the will of the people.
- The Tea Party used the democratic process to elect like-minded people and get rid of those that refused to listen
- The Tea Party did not disrupt and make threats against elected officials to the point that the legislature had to be shut down
- The Tea Party was a true grassroots movement
- The Republicans in WI are actually doing what their electorate wanted them to do
- The AstroTurf mobs are being sent by the DNC, SEIU, and other special interest groups, unions, and political activist organizations
- The AstroTurf mobs in WI are actually protesting against democracy
- The AstroTurf mobs in WI are not using the democratic process to elect like-minded representatives or to vote out those who they don't agree with, but instead are shutting down democracy
Any questions?
The elected officials did campaign for spending cuts. Nowhere or at any time did they campaign for eliminating the collective bargaining power of the workers. Those workers are the people of Wisconsin.
The elected officials did campaign for spending cuts. Nowhere or at any time did they campaign for eliminating the collective bargaining power of the workers. Those workers are the people of Wisconsin.
Spending cuts would encompass cutting salaries of public employees would it not?
They were elected to reign in the budget.
So if those are the people of Wisconsin as you put it, then use the democratic process to elect someone else if you so desire. Don't put a stop to it instead.
Spending cuts would encompass cutting salaries of public employees would it not?
They were elected to reign in the budget.
So if those are the people of Wisconsin as you put it, then use the democratic process to elect someone else if you so desire. Don't put a stop to it instead.
The employees agreed to take all the wage cuts. There is no financial issue now. The governor wants to pretty much eliminate the employees right to bargain in any kind of legitimate way. It has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BUDGET.
Spending cuts would encompass cutting salaries of public employees would it not?
They were elected to reign in the budget.
So if those are the people of Wisconsin as you put it, then use the democratic process to elect someone else if you so desire. Don't put a stop to it instead.
Cutting salaries is one thing and the unions have publicly come out in support for salaries and even benefit cuts but only at the bargaining table. The issue is arbitrarily taking away the unions right to collective bargaining. It's one thing to limit union salaries and benefits it's another thing entirely to smash their ability to represent their membership to management.
Do you seriously believe that if the economy was great and WI didn't face a budget crisis:
a) The people of WI would have voiced their opinion through the ballot box and elected these people to make these tough decisions?
b) There would even be a standoff over this at all?
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