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"Our members oppose taking away their rights to collective bargaining, so they would definitely raise their voices against it," Christina Brey, speaking for the Wisconsin Education Association Council, said of Walker's plan."
I believe they call it back peddling
Still, I have yet to see any quote from Walker or his campaign staff make any mention of collective bargaining of any sort. Case closed.
Again you simply continue to demonstrate you have no clue what the collective bargaining issue is about!
That's ok, everyone else reading this thread clearly knows Walkers plans were well know. You may think the union spokesperson brought up the collective bargaining issue up in response to......nothing. But it was clear she was responding to Walkers plan.
You can have many plans, doesn't mean you campaign on all of them, which is my point. Walker did not campaign on collective rights, end of story. Call it a day, before you embarrass yourself.
You can have many plans, doesn't mean you campaign on all of them, which is my point. Walker did not campaign on collective rights, end of story.
You can continue to insist on this line of defense but the JS article was on Walkers plan and the unions response. The article even calls it the cornerstone of his plan.
Speaking of embarassing yourself, I defy you to explain the collective bargaining issue.
That's ok, everyone else reading this thread clearly knows Walkers plans were well know. You may think the union spokesperson brought up the collective bargaining issue up in response to......nothing. But it was clear she was responding to Walkers plan.
Walker put some plans out there during the campaign, the teachers union rep called Walker's plan an end to the collective bargaining process. However, Walker himself never mentioned an end to most collective bargaining until after he was elected. His poll numbers, even from a right leaning group is quite poor. While the public clearly backs union concessions on health care benefits and pensions (which the Unions have agreed to), they are certainly on the sides of the teachers, the Unions and against ending most collective bargaining rights.
"Our members oppose taking away their rights to collective bargaining, so they would definitely raise their voices against it," Christina Brey, speaking for the Wisconsin Education Association Council, said of Walker's plan."
It was referring to Walker's plan to move teachers out of the teachers' union's insurance company which had been overcharging WI taxpayers $50-68 million per year, and into the same WI state health plan the state employees already have.
I'm not sure why the teachers are complaining about this. All it does is cut out the union-owned insurance company that has been overcharging the WI taxpayers, while leaving the savings to be used for the teachers' collectively bargained salary increases. It takes the $50-68 million overcharges the union had been pocketing and creates the ability to transfer the savings to the teachers in the form of union-negotiated salary increases.
Why exactly are we seeing teachers and other public employee union members protesting to keep the union's greedy arrangement against their own best interest?
Walker put some plans out there during the campaign, the teachers union rep called Walker's plan an end to the collective bargaining process. However, Walker himself never mentioned an end to most collective bargaining until after he was elected. His poll numbers, even from a right leaning group is quite poor. While the public clearly backs union concessions on health care benefits and pensions (which the Unions have agreed to), they are certainly on the sides of the teachers, the Unions and against ending most collective bargaining rights.
As I have said many times thank God for statesmen like Christie and Walker. They are doing what is right despite the personal political expense. It is pandering to the unions for votes and money, that got the states in the trouble they are in to begin with.
If you understood the collective bargaining issue you would understand the it would have to be altered to accomplish what he wanted. The union clearly understood this.
As I have said many times thank God for statesmen like Christie and Walker. They are doing what is right despite the personal political expense. It is pandering to the unions for votes and money, that got the states in the trouble they are in to begin with.
If you understood the collective bargaining issue you would understand the it would have to be altered to accomplish what he wanted. The union clearly understood this.
I do understand the collective bargaining issue. It may have been a part of his agenda, and the Union rep may have warned of it, but Walker HIMSELF never campaigned on it. Walker HIMSELF never said he would end most collective bargaining during the campaign.
As far as Statesmen, going after collective bargaining for middle class teachers and citing the deficit as the reason while you are giving out no bid contracts and pushing through tax cuts for wealthy CEO's (both of which reduce revenues and expand the deficit) sure as hell isn't statesman like.
I do understand the collective bargaining issue. It may have been a part of his agenda, and the Union rep may have warned of it, but Walker HIMSELF never campaigned on it. Walker HIMSELF never said he would end most collective bargaining during the campaign.
You can repeat this a million times and they still will not comprehend your statement.
Apparently a union rep warning about it = Scot Walker making it a campaign issue. Welcome to city data politics forum, leave your logic skills at the door.
I do understand the collective bargaining issue. It may have been a part of his agenda, and the Union rep may have warned of it, but Walker HIMSELF never campaigned on it. Walker HIMSELF never said he would end most collective bargaining during the campaign.
I don't know what to tell you. As a WI taxpayer, I knew about Walker's plan last year just like the union rep did.
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As far as Statesmen, going after collective bargaining for middle class teachers and citing the deficit as the reason while you are giving out no bid contracts and pushing through tax cuts for wealthy CEO's (both of which reduce revenues and expand the deficit) sure as hell isn't statesman like.
That just goes to show how uninformed you are. The bill has a REQUIREMENT that any such no bid contract MUST be in the State of WI's best interest.
And as far as the tax cuts that had bipartisan support ...the DEMS said they didn't go far enough, calling them merely symbolic and not substantive. Do I need to quote that newspaper article for you again, too?
Yeah, more and more polls - including one from Rasmussen now - are showing Walkers' numbers are most definitely on the way down, and I would suspect that sooner or later those falling numbers will start to affect the WI GOP representatives in general - at which point he'll start to come under pressure from his own party to compromise.
Sounds like the Democratic plan to stave off a vote until the public turns against Walker & the GOP is starting to bear fruit.
Ken
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