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You have an odd definition of hero. Usually heros are the ones walking toward difficulty, not tucking tail, running and hiding in shame.
Most of the country does not look at those who flee from their duties of elected office as heros. Get a grip and face reality. Those 14 are bought and paid for cowards who only represent the unions who paid for their seats instead of the entirety of the people of Wisconsin whom they are supposed to represent per their oath of office.
Err, it seems the people of Wisc are disagreeing with you. You might want to look at some of what the overall US population thinks on these issues.
Err, it seems the people of Wisc are disagreeing with you. You might want to look at some of what the overall US population thinks on these issues.
Seems that would only work as long as unions never expect any salary increases, benefits costs don't increase, and public employees relinquish their underfunded pensions because as you know, bob, Gallup found that 71% of Americans don't want to pay any more of any kind of tax.
Seems that would only work as long as unions never expect any salary increases, benefits costs don't increase, and public employees relinquish their underfunded pensions because as you know, bob, Gallup found that 71% of Americans don't want to pay any more of any kind of tax.
What's the unions' plan to make that work?
Those middle class that are not in Unions, do not expect any raises. Their incomes have dropped over the last 20 yrs. They would have dropped more, but those that were in a Union, had some modest income gain over the same period, and some of that moved into the non-union arena. As far as 71% not wanting to pay more taxes, all I can say to you is, duh.
As far as 71% not wanting to pay more taxes, all I can say to you is, duh.
Okay... then how do you think those union-negotiated salary increases and benefits cost increases will be paid for? Money falling out of the sky? Where do public employees and their unions think the money will come from to pay for their demands of more and more?
Okay... then how do you think those union-negotiated salary increases and benefits cost increases will be paid for? Money falling out of the sky? Where do public employees and their unions think the money will come from to pay for their demands of more and more?
How about not cutting taxes for those that can afford to pay them and not adding taxes or imposing pay cuts to those than cannot afford them?
Those middle class that are not in Unions, do not expect any raises. Their incomes have dropped over the last 20 yrs. They would have dropped more, but those that were in a Union, had some modest income gain over the same period, and some of that moved into the non-union arena. As far as 71% not wanting to pay more taxes, all I can say to you is, duh.
median incomes have not dropped over the last 20 years.. Will you stop making things up..
1990 median income $35,200
2000 median income $49,600
2010 median income $64,400
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Originally Posted by florida.bob
How about not cutting taxes for those that can afford to pay them and not adding taxes or imposing pay cuts to those than cannot afford them?
median incomes have not dropped over the last 20 years.. Will you stop making things up..
1990 median income $35,200
2000 median income $49,600
2010 median income $64,400
How about not cutting taxes for those that can afford to pay them and not adding taxes or imposing pay cuts to those than cannot afford them?
Hmmm... you mean the very small amount of economic development tax cuts the WI Dems complained about being symbolic and not substantive are supposed to make up the $10.9 billion WI teachers' pension system shortfall plus pay for public employee salary increases and benefits cost increases?
How is that going to work, bob? Do the math. Show your work.
median incomes have not dropped over the last 20 years.. Will you stop making things up..
1990 median income $35,200
2000 median income $49,600
2010 median income $64,400
Ahh, another poster with class envy..
and as you know income has not been keeping up with the cost of every thing else.
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