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Old 04-27-2011, 09:21 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Better to bow down to corporations, from whom all blessings flow than to bow down to some foreign head of state who will hold America hostage and dictate policy.
What makes you think there's a difference? Surrender is still surrender.
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Old 04-27-2011, 09:23 AM
 
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Corporations don't pay taxes. PEOPLE pay taxes. That is the way it should be.
SInce corporations have been granted the rights of a person why should they not have the responsibilities of a person, including paying taxes?
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Old 04-27-2011, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Limbo
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SInce corporations have been granted the rights of a person why should they not have the responsibilities of a person, including paying taxes?
Exactly.
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Old 04-27-2011, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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The Republican solution, bow-down deeply to the corporations and allow them to hold America hostage and dictate government policy.

Great Plan!
Bow down to corporations? You mean you'd rather bow down to the banks who don't employ anyone, won't loan our own money back to us, and funnel cash off shore? Do you believe the Democrats solution of printing more, taxing more and growing more, so they can spend more is the answer?

We need to close corporate tax loopholes, not raise taxes. You can't raise taxes and keep a broken system because you'll end up burdening small companies while rewarding large corporations with those same tax loopholes. Blatantly raising taxes without cutting off frivolous deductions is like trying to repair a ping in your engine by putting air in the tires.
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Old 04-27-2011, 09:39 AM
 
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Bow down to corporations? You mean you'd rather bow down to the banks who don't employ anyone, won't loan our own money back to us, and funnel cash off shore? Do you believe the Democrats solution of printing more, taxing more and growing more, so they can spend more is the answer?
NOT bowing to corporations doesn't preclude NOT bowing to banks which after all are also corporations.
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We need to close corporate tax loopholes, not raise taxes. You can't raise taxes and keep a broken system because you'll end up burdening small companies while rewarding large corporations with those same tax loopholes. Blatantly raising taxes without cutting off frivolous deductions is like trying to repair a ping in your engine by putting air in the tires.
Closing loopholes will effectively raise the tax rate and corporate taxes.
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Old 04-27-2011, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Talking Bush voters...

... talking about what's dumb.
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Old 04-27-2011, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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He's NOT stupid. There is plan, and it requires high energy prices to pull off. Obama wanted to bring change, remember.
You keep the change, I would rather keep my dollars.
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Old 04-27-2011, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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NOT bowing to corporations doesn't preclude NOT bowing to banks which after all are also corporations.


Closing loopholes will effectively raise the tax rate and corporate taxes.
YOU were the one that made it a Republican thing, as if all Republicans wish to bow to corporations. Closing those loopholes for large companies, like Obamas friend GE, is only forcing them to pay the existing tax tables. Raising tax rates to an already broken system is rediculous. That was my point which you clearly ignored.

People need to get off the Democrat/Republican infighting bandwagon and move to backing a Fair Tax, IMHO. As for Obama being dumber than dirt... not even close. The guy is smart enough to warn everyone of what he'd do and still got elected. Now that the spell is wearing off people are coming out of their comas, I hope.
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Old 04-27-2011, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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End all tax loopholes, subsidies, and deductions now.

Charge a flat corporate income tax rate of 15% on all oil companies
who do you think is going to pay that tax? Oil companies will just raise their prices to cover the loss of revenue from the tax. Whose going to ultimately;y pay for this tax? The consumer that is who
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Old 04-27-2011, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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SInce corporations have been granted the rights of a person why should they not have the responsibilities of a person, including paying taxes?
Who do you think will pay that corporate tax? do you think the corporation will not pass the loss of revenue on to the consumers. Fine talking point but the reality is we all will pay for a corporate tax. So in fact the Dem's want a regressive tax that makes the poor pay more
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