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Old 06-13-2011, 05:48 PM
 
Location: South Jordan, Utah
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Neither of those quotes remotely translate into what you have written. Go ahead there only thousands of links about classical liberals. Not one remotely supports your contention.
Please explain to me what this means.

"It is the value of the improvement only, and not the earth itself, that is individual property.... Every proprietor owes to the community a ground rent for the land which he holds."

And this.

"Ground rents are a species of revenue which the owner, in many cases, enjoys without any care or attention of his own. Ground rents are, therefore, perhaps a species of revenue which can best bear to have a peculiar tax imposed upon them."
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Old 06-13-2011, 05:50 PM
 
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Apparently, reading comprehension is not a strong suit.

SAME percentage. You're poor, you pay a certain percentage. You're rich, you pay the same percentage.
So do you not know about diminishing marginal utility of money, or do you not care that a purely equal consumption task WILL impose a tougher burden on the poor than on the richer?

It might be time for me to post another Lucky Ducky comic, considering how cartoonish some of the views expressed here have been.
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Old 06-13-2011, 07:19 PM
 
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So do you not know about diminishing marginal utility of money, or do you not care that a purely equal consumption task WILL impose a tougher burden on the poor than on the richer?

It might be time for me to post another Lucky Ducky comic, considering how cartoonish some of the views expressed here have been.
You asked me what I thought was fair. Then you mock my answer to the question, after first not understanding what equal percentage meant. But Ive come to expect that from liberals - no rational response, so they resort to mockery and hate.

No, I do not care that an equal consumption task will impose a tougher burden on the poor. Just as you don't care that the rich pay far more for fewer entitlements than the poor do. There are all kinds of equal.

The reality is, I'd like to see everyone pay at a percentage that they take. But I know that won't happen. Because the poor are really just victims of the progressive agenda that has convinced them that they are incapable of living the american dream in exchange for votes.
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Old 06-13-2011, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Please explain to me what this means.

"It is the value of the improvement only, and not the earth itself, that is individual property.... Every proprietor owes to the community a ground rent for the land which he holds."

And this.

"Ground rents are a species of revenue which the owner, in many cases, enjoys without any care or attention of his own. Ground rents are, therefore, perhaps a species of revenue which can best bear to have a peculiar tax imposed upon them."

They are in favor of land tax. I said that I post 91. They are in favor of land taxes as a way to raise revenue. It has nothing to do with the craziness you impute to it.
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Old 06-13-2011, 07:30 PM
 
Location: South Jordan, Utah
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They are in favor of land tax. I said that I post 91. They are in favor of land taxes as a way to raise revenue. It has nothing to do with the craziness you impute to it.
Why are they in favor of a land tax?

What craziness did I impute?
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Old 06-13-2011, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Why are they in favor of a land tax?

What craziness did I impute?
: smack: post 197.

Too funny this whole thread you have stated that classical liberals have some different ideas than conservatives and libertarians about taxes. You are wrong.
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Old 06-13-2011, 07:41 PM
 
Location: South Jordan, Utah
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: smack: post 197.
That is your post, nothing you said was a fact or even an answer, it was your opinion.

Why are they in favor of a land tax?

What craziness did I impute?
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Old 06-13-2011, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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That is your post, nothing you said was a fact or even an answer, it was your opinion.

Why are they in favor of a land tax?

What craziness did I impute?

Doh, see above. They were in favor of land taxes to raise revenue! Yikes which part of that didn't you get last time?
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Old 06-13-2011, 07:45 PM
 
Location: South Jordan, Utah
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Doh, see above. They were in favor of land taxes to raise revenue! Yikes which part of that didn't you get last time?
Why land and not income, sales, or other taxes?

What craziness did I impute?
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Old 06-13-2011, 07:49 PM
 
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Scrap the current tax code. Keep a progressive structure, but make sure everyone pays in. Lower all rates. Get rid of all of the deductions, credits, shelters, subsidies, write-offs, expenditures, etc and put a small national sales tax on everything.
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