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Old 06-20-2011, 09:20 AM
 
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Prove it.
Would you like me to show you example after example after example of what corporations do and how they cut corners if left to their own devices?

Castrating the enforcement arm of food safety standards will somehow make food safer your'e implying?
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Old 06-20-2011, 09:23 AM
 
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I think you fail to accept that the GOP did NOT go to war alone. Many Dems voted in favor of the actions.
Voted to authorize the use of force if necessary... Bush said he needed that authorization to give him the leverage he needed in negotiating...

You, as most Conservatives do, mistake an authorization for the use of force as meaning that they 100% backed the ultimate reason why we "had no choice"......

We couldn't wait for the inspectors, remember? Attack was imminent!!! Iraq was going to drop nukes on us and poison the world if we didn't go in immediately!!!
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Old 06-20-2011, 09:27 AM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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You have to admit, the current version of the GOP, beginning with Bush, and his current supporters, are more pathetic than any imaginable. Consider these facts:

1) They elected George Bush. In their judgment, Bush was the best man suited to represent the interests of the american public. Which public he represented resulted in disastrous consequences for this country and other sovereign nations around the world. His was a failed presidency and he is widely regarded as the worst ever.

2) They reelected George Bush. More evidence that their judgment and political instincts stink, they sold the country on the idea that this village idiot deserved another four years to "finish the job." He didn't finish the "job" that they campaigned he'd finish (2 mismanaged wars and no bin Laden), but he damn near finished off this country.

3) They are ultimate sore losers. Exposed as frauds by 8 horrific years of Bush, they attempted to attribute all of the Bush-created problems to the newly-inaugurated President Obama the very day he took office. Suddenly, Bush never happened. Rather than working to correct their incompetence, they become obstructionists. No solutions, just big pouting babies who shake their heads NO to everything. Pathetic.

4) Nothing more than Neanderthal obstructionists. We finally have an intelligent man at the helm, one who declares that "ideological puristy does not solve problems." He seeks solutions from ANYONE to solve the problems which plague this country. Yet, Republicans can only offer the same ridiculous, nonsensical solutions which favor only the most privileged. Their sole intent is not to help solve the problems, but to do what they can to keep President Obama from solving them, so they can make a claim that he should be a one-term president. No clue.

5) Their narrative sucks. Thread after thread of idiotic nonsense, lunatic spins, and sour grapes, they distort the reality. The reality is that they gave this President the worst mess in history, one that they created over 8 years. Is it reasonable to expect this President to solve every GOP-created problem in 3 years? Absolutely not. But, President Obama is making great progress and three years in, has done more than both Bush Presidents and Reagan combined. The narrative continues to get more ridiculous, the more desperate they get. After all, President Obama has been successful thus far, across the board.

6) The list of candidates that the GOP has carted out is one of the sorriest in history. My God! Bachmann is lying already, claming the President is a 1-term President. Tacky, misinformed, hollow, no record of success, no record of balancing a budget or reducing a deficit, and certainly no record on running the country after George Bush has gotten his hands on it. Absolutely shameful.

7) Still the party of Bush. Bad, bad, bad.

8) Sarah Palin's continued presence is an embarrassment. Even she knows that she is unqualified and unpresidential as a person can get. This is why she travels around, luring in unsuspecting suckers to boost her personal fortune, avoiding political issues and scrutiny. She's a disgrace and an incredibly negative reflection on the state of the GOP today. Her presence in the GOP brings the party down to unrecognizable levels. Quite a shame.

9) They have become synonymous with bigotry and racial intolerance, exclusion not inclusion. They focus on the differences between us not the similarities that we share in common. They are still the party supported by the most racially bigoted segment of this country.

10) They only care about spending, the deficit, and the economy when a Democrat is in the White House. Bush had this country in an economic free-fall. The economy was in shambles by the time Bush left, as the rich were getting much richer, everyone else was going to hell. The GOP sat silent. Now they're screaming about the economy because this week the numbers weren't good and they have nothing else. Bush took a surplus and in the process of running that to a record deficit, the GOP said nothing. Suddenly now, they're concerned about the deficit and want to get rid of Medicare in the process. Pathetic. How about spending? With Bush, they supported that wasteful trillion dollar spending spree, fighting and losing to a militarily inferior opponent, while this country bled to death. Now they want to eliminate Medicare, send the poor and disadvantaged to hell, and attack Unions. They don't mind spending in other parts of the world to control the oil and "spread democracy", but the impoverished at home deserve no consideration. Shameful.

Frankly folks, our biggest problem is the GOP. They have been utterly useless and their actions have been severely detrimental to the health of this country. Their policies and narrative, stink. Has there ever been a more pathetic version of the GOP than the one that we are stuck with today?
Now tell us all how you really feel about the refuticans
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Old 06-20-2011, 10:40 AM
 
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Voted to authorize the use of force if necessary... Bush said he needed that authorization to give him the leverage he needed in negotiating...

You, as most Conservatives do, mistake an authorization for the use of force as meaning that they 100% backed the ultimate reason why we "had no choice"......

We couldn't wait for the inspectors, remember? Attack was imminent!!! Iraq was going to drop nukes on us and poison the world if we didn't go in immediately!!!
It is obvious you haven't read the Authority to Invade Iraq that Congress passed.
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Old 06-20-2011, 12:39 PM
 
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It is obvious you haven't read the Authority to Invade Iraq that Congress passed.
It is also obvious that you are unaware that over 60% of Democrats in the House voted against it.
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Old 08-04-2013, 07:29 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Default Wow, another excellent topic

Two years after I created this thread, the GOP appears to have REGRESSED. Frankly, I didn't think that could be possible. They are even naively venturing into a topic that has always been their biggest shortcoming: race.
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Old 08-04-2013, 07:35 PM
 
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Two years after I created this thread, the GOP appears to have REGRESSED. Frankly, I didn't think that could be possible. They are even naively venturing into a topic that has always been their biggest shortcoming: race.
2 years later, you're still thinking you created a wonderful thread..

Sad to see some people never grow up
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Old 08-04-2013, 07:54 PM
 
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I think we are looking at pretty good scapes with both parties.Republican looking for a candidate that can do what Reagan did and not what McCain failed to do.Democrats likely to see Clinton centralist move against Obama's left based on poll weakness. Democrats are looking to Hillary but I don't know if she can escape the shadow of being a Obama supporter especially with independents. Base turn out plus good independent votes is the key as ever.If independents see failure and want change that is determining factor.
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Old 08-04-2013, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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You have to admit, the current version of the GOP, beginning with Bush, and his current supporters, are more pathetic than any imaginable. Consider these facts:
This is a really sophomoric synopsis that you wrote. to summarize:

1) bash Booosh

2) bash Booosh and those who reelected him (apparently we should have elected John Edwards as VP)

3) bash Booosh

4) GOP won't go along with 0bama's policy decisions

5) bash Booosh and Reagan

6) Bash Boooosh and Bachmann "Absolutely shameful."

7) "Still the party of Bush. Bad, bad, bad."

8) Bash Sarah Palin "Quite a shame."

9) Pull out the race card

10) Bash Booosh, and more bashing of Booosh "Shameful."

An entire rant with nothing substantive to say, just rambling partisan rhetoric and a run-on rant against Boooosh.

Why even bring up Palin and Bachmann, if you are going to write a post to berate the GOP? The GOP can't stand Palin and Bachman. The GOP probably despise Palin and Bacmann as much as the left does, because both women challenge the power held by the political establishment.
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Old 08-04-2013, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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The left is terrified, as they understand that they will lose the white house and senate in 2012. People have been awakened to the dangers of unchecked federal spending and Keynesian economics. 2012 elections will be rough on the libs, yet will be a clear mandate from the people. Like Carter, Obama will make liberal a dirty word and it will take the nation another thirty years before they forget about how bad he was.
0bama really has not pursued Keynesian economics, all he has been doing is giving away the US treasury to his political and corporate cronies. both 0bamacare and this immigration bill are chuck full of billions and billions in sweet pork for his cronies. All he has been doing is using taxpayer money and perverting our laws and regs to buy votes, power and influence, which is why the people are suffering so much; he just does not care about us.
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