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Old 06-21-2011, 11:47 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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You guys should realize that we'll all be bailing out the federal government, which is already effectively in the business of "bailing out" the states in a variety of ways. It's all on nation, and there are no real boundaries when it comes to national solvency.

So it's rather childish to be playing these "Texas vs. California" or "my state against your state" games. We're in the same boat, people, and it would be in our best interest for all states to do better rather than wish failure to one portion of the country.
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Old 06-21-2011, 11:50 AM
 
Location: In a Galaxy far, far away called Germany
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You guys should realize that we'll all be bailing out the federal government, which is already effectively in the business of "bailing out" the states in a variety of ways. It's all on nation, and there are no real boundaries when it comes to national solvency.

So it's rather childish to be playing these "Texas vs. California" or "my state against your state" games. We're in the same boat, people, and it would be in our best interest for all states to do better rather than wish failure to one portion of the country.
I certainly don't want any state to fail, but I also don't want to bail a state that refused to listen and did what they wanted, only to fail. If they fail, that is their choice. They were warned and I shouldn't have to pay for their arrogance just so they can continue in it.
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Old 06-21-2011, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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Once they eject all the illegal aliens, and reduce the size of their government, they will be fine, till then, let them go under.
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Old 06-21-2011, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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And why ?

I voted no, but would support a bail out with conditions.

1. 100% of the legislature must resign and can never hold public office again.

2. All state pensions will be reduced to levels below the private sector.

3. All state employee defined benefit plans will be terminated immediately.

4. The new legislature must develop a balanced budget with NO tax increases within six months.
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Old 06-21-2011, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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You guys should realize that we'll all be bailing out the federal government, which is already effectively in the business of "bailing out" the states in a variety of ways. It's all on nation, and there are no real boundaries when it comes to national solvency.

So it's rather childish to be playing these "Texas vs. California" or "my state against your state" games. We're in the same boat, people, and it would be in our best interest for all states to do better rather than wish failure to one portion of the country.
FOX News has them believing California is in worse shape than Texas
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Old 06-21-2011, 12:38 PM
 
Location: In a Galaxy far, far away called Germany
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FOX News has them believing California is in worse shape than Texas
So does CNN, MSNBC and BBC. BBC had an interesting on-air piece on the "Texas-Model". I've been trying to google that to see if that was ever put on their website, but I cannot find it. It's a shame. Calfornia has always been my idea of heaven on earth. If I was offered a good there, I would still move there in a heart-beat though.
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Old 06-21-2011, 12:39 PM
 
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No. They need to cut spending and raise tax revenues.
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Old 06-21-2011, 12:44 PM
 
Location: California
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As if anyone has a choice but to accept anything.
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Old 06-21-2011, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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And why ?
I'm sick of paying for other people's mistake. Damn the torpedos; let it collaspe and we'll rebuild it as something better.
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Old 06-21-2011, 12:57 PM
 
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Once they eject all the illegal aliens, and reduce the size of their government, they will be fine, till then, let them go under.
When they have nothing to hand out to illegals , they will go away . Dirty politicians will go when the funds dry up. Just like when rich people loose all their money , all their so called friends go also .
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