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Old 07-04-2011, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Yes. And why not? The same people who refuse to come up with a $30 co-pay to take their children to a doctor's office think nothing of coming up with $100 to take their cat to the vet.

Veterinarians are not having all these issues with Medicaid.
Please provide some evidence that doctors are becoming vets. BTW, I do agree with the above post.

Here are the requirements to get a vet's license in NYS. As I suspected, part of the requirement is completion of veterinary education.

NYS Veterinarian:License Requirements
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Old 07-04-2011, 08:45 AM
 
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Please provide some evidence that doctors are becoming vets. BTW, I do agree with the above post.

Here are the requirements to get a vet's license in NYS. As I suspected, part of the requirement is completion of veterinary education.

NYS Veterinarian:License Requirements
Someone else said they were but I think many might be because I've heard doctors discussing how much more veterinarians are making now and they think they have similar job skills.
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Old 07-04-2011, 10:47 AM
 
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Its not medicaid, its private insurance.

Everyone, in 2014, is mandated to have private insurance or employer based insurance.

Thats accepted by family doctors all over the country. 70 to 80% of Americans under the age of medicare will have mandated private insurance in 2014.
This is what Obamacare mandates in regards to Medicaid:

Expands Medicaid to all individuals not eligible for Medicare under age 65 (children, pregnant women, parents, and adults without dependent children) with incomes up to 133% FPL and provides enhanced federal matching payments for new eligibles.
Implementation: January 1, 2014 (states have the option to expand coverage to childless adults beginning April 1, 2010)

Implementation Timeline - Kaiser Health Reform


States are already being bankrupted by increasing Medicaid costs. This law will add more people onto the Medicaid rolls.
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Old 07-04-2011, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Supporters of the healthcare reform legislation passed by Congress claim it will reduce emergency room visits by providing nearly all Americans with the insurance they can use to see a primary care physician.

Anyone got the shinny on this claim?
Emergency room visits are from the poor, not because they don't have "health insurance" but because they're too lazy to call a friend or cab to take them.

One of the reasons the city here started charging for ambulance runs, is because people would call for things like toothaches and minor stomach pains and other minor things.

Once the paramedics are on scene, they have to transport or face liability from ambulance chasing lawyers.

That's one of the benefits of having a 911 system.
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Old 07-04-2011, 10:55 AM
 
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This is what Obamacare mandates in regards to Medicaid:

Expands Medicaid to all individuals not eligible for Medicare under age 65 (children, pregnant women, parents, and adults without dependent children) with incomes up to 133% FPL and provides enhanced federal matching payments for new eligibles.
Implementation: January 1, 2014 (states have the option to expand coverage to childless adults beginning April 1, 2010)

Implementation Timeline - Kaiser Health Reform


States are already being bankrupted by increasing Medicaid costs. This law will add more people onto the Medicaid rolls.
Here is an interesting article about Medicaid:

How Much Do States Really Spend On Medicaid? : NPR

Sommers and other advocates for the program say there's a reason some people want to make Medicaid look as expensive as possible. It has to do with politics.

"Medicaid is a lightning rod for a lot of the hot button issues, in particular for the ideological right," he says. "So it becomes a potential punching bag for conservatives who are trying to argue that the federal government is overreaching, [that] the Obama administration's health reform is unsustainable, and that the budget numbers just don't add up."
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Old 07-04-2011, 10:59 AM
 
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Emergency room visits are from the poor, not because they don't have "health insurance" but because they're too lazy to call a friend or cab to take them.

One of the reasons the city here started charging for ambulance runs, is because people would call for things like toothaches and minor stomach pains and other minor things.

Once the paramedics are on scene, they have to transport or face liability from ambulance chasing lawyers.

That's one of the benefits of having a 911 system.
Ya think?

http://news.change.org/stories/er-th...doctors-office

"Don't blame ER overcrowding on the uninsured. They account for 17 percent of visits." (And 16 percent of the total population.)

That's a timely piece of advice from Leora Horwitz, M.D., assistant professor at the Yale School of Medicine. According to a new Centers for Disease Control report, the number of ER patients has climbed steadily for the past decade, with one in five U.S. residents visiting an emergency room during 2007.
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Old 07-04-2011, 11:17 AM
 
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Here is an interesting article about Medicaid:

How Much Do States Really Spend On Medicaid? : NPR

Sommers and other advocates for the program say there's a reason some people want to make Medicaid look as expensive as possible. It has to do with politics.

"Medicaid is a lightning rod for a lot of the hot button issues, in particular for the ideological right," he says. "So it becomes a potential punching bag for conservatives who are trying to argue that the federal government is overreaching, [that] the Obama administration's health reform is unsustainable, and that the budget numbers just don't add up."
From your link:
And certainly regardless of fund source," she says, "the program is growing similar to health care overall, at an annual rate of growth that exceeds state revenues or national economic growth, which really leads to budget pressures at all levels of government."

All of which means that however you measure it, Medicaid is going to remain a budget issue going forward.

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Yes, part of Medicaid is paid for by the Federal govt, but the Feds also place mandates on what is covered and who is eligible, thereby driving up the cost of the program.

Interesting that one of the people claiming political bias,Sommers, is from Harvard which is where Obama has tapped many of his cabinet members and advisers from. Could he have a political bias as well?
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