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Old 08-05-2011, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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On the one hand, I see it as a preventative measure in controlling the larger problem, which is indiscriminate breeding. I would be willing to pay for that. On the the hand, I know from experience working in an abortion clinic that the most irresponsible women will not take the pill reliably or at all, even if you give it to them free (as we did). If the underlying motive is to control the birthrate of certain segments of society, a depo provera shot or a hormonal implant, both of which must be administered by a healthcare professional once every few months, would be a better choice.
If only......I really see nothing wrong with requiring someone who is on welfare to practice these types of birth control methods if they want that check. {unless there is a valid medical reason not to do so}

No one is taking your "right to procreate" away, if you don't like it, support yourself and your kids....no one is stopping you.
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Old 08-05-2011, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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LOL, either you're the outlier female who doesn't care, or you're a male who isn't good friends with females enough to talk with them about the matter candidly.
"Annie" is obviously a girls name. "summer" is a girls name too.....but I do remember.....you are a boy.

A condom is more likely to affect a man's pleasure than a woman's and it is usually men that complain about having to use them, IMO.
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Old 08-05-2011, 08:05 AM
 
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On the one hand, I see it as a preventative measure in controlling the larger problem, which is indiscriminate breeding. I would be willing to pay for that. On the the hand, I know from experience working in an abortion clinic that the most irresponsible women will not take the pill reliably or at all, even if you give it to them free (as we did). If the underlying motive is to control the birthrate of certain segments of society, a depo provera shot or a hormonal implant, both of which must be administered by a healthcare professional once every few months, would be a better choice.

A growing problem is the third worlders we've allowed in will not darken the door of a clinic for birth control. Indiscriminate breeding on our (ever diminishing) dime....
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Old 08-05-2011, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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insurance companies take care of handing free birth control to women?

I think that it is not very legal but then they plan to take over insurance business soon anyway so I guess we might just as well get used to it.
The pill has been linked to increased chances of breast cancer and other diseases, so why are we giving it away free? May as well give away free cigarettes to reduce stress.
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Old 08-05-2011, 04:01 PM
 
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Insurers must cover birth control with no copays - Yahoo! News


"Generic versions of the pill are available for as little as $9 a month. Still, about half of all pregnancies are unplanned. Many are among women using some form of contraception, and forgetting to take the pill is a major reason."

This is insanity. I DO NOT want to pay for YOUR birth control! Especially if you and millions of others, do NOT then use the BC the proper way and STILL get pregnant! Plus, imagine how many STD's will now be diagnosed....with the presumed decrease in condom use! Lovely! You and I will be paying for the AIDS/STD treatments that will follow the free birth control pills!!!!

And, if one cannot afford the $9 generic pills...then they have NO right to be risking becoming pregnant as they surely CANNOT AFFORD A CHILD which requires care in amts way greater than $9/month!

Obamacare is A FARCE. There is NO way the premiums will be affordable to everyday citizens with all this carp that is being given out free in the nanny-state Obama has created.
Some people are put on birth control because they have fibrosis or very painful and heavy menstrual cramps. Either way, insurance covers many things which are also inexpensive, but people don't go into a fit over it.
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Old 08-05-2011, 04:08 PM
 
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If only......I really see nothing wrong with requiring someone who is on welfare to practice these types of birth control methods if they want that check. {unless there is a valid medical reason not to do so}

No one is taking your "right to procreate" away, if you don't like it, support yourself and your kids....no one is stopping you.

How creepy and eugenic like.
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Old 08-05-2011, 04:09 PM
 
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They can buy their generic bottle of advil for about 4$ a month and hold the damn pill between their legs for dear life for all I care, but I shouldn't have to pay for someone else baby stomper pills!

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Insurers must cover birth control with no copays - Yahoo! News


"Generic versions of the pill are available for as little as $9 a month. Still, about half of all pregnancies are unplanned. Many are among women using some form of contraception, and forgetting to take the pill is a major reason."

This is insanity. I DO NOT want to pay for YOUR birth control! Especially if you and millions of others, do NOT then use the BC the proper way and STILL get pregnant! Plus, imagine how many STD's will now be diagnosed....with the presumed decrease in condom use! Lovely! You and I will be paying for the AIDS/STD treatments that will follow the free birth control pills!!!!

And, if one cannot afford the $9 generic pills...then they have NO right to be risking becoming pregnant as they surely CANNOT AFFORD A CHILD which requires care in amts way greater than $9/month!

Obamacare is A FARCE. There is NO way the premiums will be affordable to everyday citizens with all this carp that is being given out free in the nanny-state Obama has created.
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Old 08-05-2011, 04:12 PM
 
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Now that would get my vote. Better yet, require both males and females who receive government aid to appear at a clinic every three months for a depo provera shot for the duration of their time on welfare. No shot, no check.
How inhumane.

You should not be proud of yourself.

I don't even believe in government aid for various reasons, and I still think this sentiment is horrible.

I don't understand why people who are proud of others for "fighting for their freedoms" insist on creating a dictatorship.
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Old 08-05-2011, 04:14 PM
 
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Irresponsible condom hating sl*ts rejoice!
What about married women who have sex with their husbands, and don't want to use condoms??
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Old 08-05-2011, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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My only question is this.

Is the amount of money that will be used to procure birth control for every woman going to be off set by a lowering in the birth rate?

Me thinks it won't, which means its wasteful.

I understand the thinking, give all women birth control to lower the need to pay for assistance to help parents with their childrens needs, but this is ridiculous.
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