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Old 08-06-2011, 09:24 AM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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Yes. When one wealthy Muslim male can buy up dozens of young "wives", concubines and sex slaves there is an imbalance.

That's one reason Muslim societies are so very unstable and they utterly depend on immigration to the West. One man having 30-40-50 offspring does not make for a stable progressive society.
Most of the muslim world is dead broke. Again, I'm unaware of any gender imbalances in the muslim world. Perhaps you could provide a little linky to support your contention.
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Old 08-06-2011, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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As has been stated,China isn't as beholden to the USA as americans seem to think,but then this is probably just hubris on the part of americans...
I think the laws of economics does beholden them to us, without your best customer, you are hurt.

It'd be like Ford buying exclusively Firestone tires, and then suddenly stopping. It will hurt firestone.

I will give you one point though, not many people, if anyone knows what truly goes on in China, because they hide and mask their economics and political reality. That is a wild card.

But the US is Chinas biggest customer. Without us, their economy, by normal standards, will shrink.
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Old 08-06-2011, 09:26 AM
 
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Also India is the biggest English speaking nation in the world and like the USA and Canada was once a British colony. I can see India gaining because India kept what we gave up. They value literacy, they value a common language.
You forgot to add a fully functioning family paradigm. You simply cannot have a fully functioning society without the ability to produce and then rear productive citizens.
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Old 08-06-2011, 09:29 AM
 
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I always laugh when people like you come out of the woodwork.

We're in the midst of the globalization age. If the Western economy collapses, BRIC will collapse with it.

Don't even get me started on China's currency problems, their menacing real estate bubble waiting to explode, India's astronomical poverty etc.,

There can not be a superpower on earth anymore. The economy has been globalized. We're in the age of a global confederation where the picture is as gloomy as the ancient proverb but goes like this - "united we stand, united we fall"

Try 2012 and rapture next time.
Time to change people's perception of reality.

It's time to look at atoms and see how they work and then work your way up the line to all the things that surround you.

Predators and prey.

Pluses and minuses.

Males and females.

Creditors and debtors.

Protons, neutrons and electrons.

The yin-yang.

All in tandem always moving forward with a background radiation that is omnipresent and always changing things.

We can survive this but our minds have to be revolutionized from our previous dogmatic tendencies that separate mind, body and soul from their surroundings.
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Old 08-06-2011, 09:39 AM
 
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Most of the muslim world is dead broke. Again, I'm unaware of any gender imbalances in the muslim world. Perhaps you could provide a little linky to support your contention.
In a word -- polygamy. Polygamy by definition disrupts the natural balance of approximately 50:50 males to females.

Muslims are into polygamy, the buying of 13 year old "wives" and what happens to all the excess males?
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Old 08-06-2011, 10:16 AM
 
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In a word -- polygamy. Polygamy by definition disrupts the natural balance of approximately 50:50 males to females.

Muslims are into polygamy, the buying of 13 year old "wives" and what happens to all the excess males?
What?

Polygamy is practiced by a small part of the Muslim world. And usually only by the very wealthy.
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Old 08-06-2011, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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Also India is the biggest English speaking nation in the world and like the USA and Canada was once a British colony. I can see India gaining because India kept what we gave up. They value literacy, they value a common language.
That's true and they are still a commonwealth nation so they still to this day have ties with Canada, Australia and the UK. They held the Annual commonwealth games just last year. They would make a great ally in in the ME aganist pakistan and be a great military rival to China.

Anyways if the west is falling then Canada should buy 100 F/A-18E/F super hornets, 20 F/A-18G Growler's and 50 F-15E Strike Eagles. Since we are waitng for F-35 which we already spent 9 billion to buy 65 of them an are waiting for them to come into full production which may be a while...

I have a feeling Russia is going to be testing NORAD airspace alot more in the near future.

All I care about is making sure that North American airspace does not get tested by China or Russia because there is a huge dispute going about the natural gas and oil reserves up there right now.

Maybe we should buy 6-8 Arleigh Burke-class destroyers to add our Naval fleet to do more joint US/CAN patrols in the arctic.
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Old 08-06-2011, 10:40 AM
 
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What?

Polygamy is practiced by a small part of the Muslim world. And usually only by the very wealthy.
The facts don't support that, but there are not hard facts since they lie about it in order to access the welfare handouts. In fact immigration to countries with very generous welfare programs help the Muslim polygamists as it means polygamy is no longer limited to the very wealthy, the wives will happily live off taxpayer provided welfare handouts.

Islam in Europe: Denmark: Muslims against polygamous marriages

Polygamy among Muslims in Denmark is much more widespread than the authorities suspect. Several imams gladly marry a Muslim man to wives two and three. This according to several sources in the Muslim community, who are speaking out publicly in order to get the authorities to intervene.


Muslims claiming cash for numerous wives - Canada - Canoe.ca

Hundreds of GTA Muslim men in polygamous marriages -- some with a harem of wives -- are receiving welfare and social benefits for each of their spouses, thanks to the city and province, Muslim leaders say.

Mumtaz Ali, president of the Canadian Society of Muslims, said wives in polygamous marriages are recognized as spouses under the Ontario Family Law Act, providing they were legally married under Muslim laws abroad.



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Islam heavily influences society. Polygamy is widespread and socially accepted. At least one-third of women are in a polygamous marriage.


Some Muslims in U.S. Quietly Engage in Polygamy : NPR

Still, Muslims practice polygamy in the U.S., despite state laws prohibiting it.

Here's how a man gets around the laws: He marries one woman under civil law, and then marries one, two or three others in religious ceremonies that are not recognized by the state. In other cases, men marry women in both America and abroad.

Many women keep quiet for fear of retribution or deportation.



Polygamy has Arrived: Britain and Canada Pay Welfare Benefits to Polygamist Immigrants | LifeSiteNews.com

It was revealed in early February that new rules drawn up by the UK’s Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) allow Muslim men - who under Sharia law are permitted up to four wives - to claim welfare benefits for more than one wife.

Italy: Polygamous Muslim marriages 'on the rise' - Adnkronos Religion

"There is no doubt that the phenomenon exists, and that the number of polygamous unions growing as the number of Muslim immigrants to Italy increases," the paper said, adding that there are also cases of polygamous Italian converts to Islam.

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Old 08-06-2011, 10:46 AM
 
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You forgot to add a fully functioning family paradigm. You simply cannot have a fully functioning society without the ability to produce and then rear productive citizens.
And yet, 900 thousand Indians die every year from contaminated water, poverty, polluted air, and inadequate healthcare.

India needs to stop producing so many citizens as it can't support them.
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Old 08-06-2011, 11:15 AM
 
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In a word -- polygamy. Polygamy by definition disrupts the natural balance of approximately 50:50 males to females.

Muslims are into polygamy, the buying of 13 year old "wives" and what happens to all the excess males?
You are forgetting most muslims are dirt poor. They cannot afford multiple wives. That's for old farts. Once again, can you supply a link indicating there is a gender imbalance in the muslim world?
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