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Old 09-01-2011, 08:50 AM
 
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Lots are. Haven't you been keeping up?
Yes in fact, I have. This issue hits home for me so I make a point to keep up on it.

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Yes it would be better if they didn't exist. Therefore, when discovered, make them not exist.

But wasn't it you who said earlier that we need to consider the feelings of pedophiles too? Yes .. that was you. And you couldn't be more wrong ... nor anymore lacking of credibility after making such a declaration. We need waste no time in considering the "feelings" of child predators. Not one millisecond.
Yes, and I still feel that way. A lot of child predators were abused themselves. I think we need to get to the source of the problem--not just put a bandaid on a festering wound. And that's exactly what imprisoning pedophiles for a few years does. It takes them out of society for a few years, only to have them be reintegrated and exposed to children once again. That's not solving the problem.

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Pure baloney ... you don't know what you are talking about, at all. Psychotropic drugs work just like hang nails are cured by amputation. They literally lobotomize the patients into zombies. You need to watch "Death by Psychiatry" it's free to view on YouTube. Educate yourself, then talk. There are plenty of Psychiatrists who come forward in that documentary and tell it like it is, and though there are plenty of other sources that corroborate the various facts covered, this film is a good compilation exposing the fraud that psychiatry is, so you need not take my word for anything.
I have taken psychotropic drugs...but I don't know what I'm talking about. They helped get me out of the deep hole of PTSD/depression that being raped and molested by a pedophile did to me, but I don't know what I'm talking about.

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It's a well demonstrated leaning of the homosexual community to marginalize pedophilia .... of course, they sing in chorus how child molesters are actually all heterosexuals .... while also being the most vocal activists for lowering or eliminating age of consent laws too. Imagine that!
I don't think all child molesters are heterosexual. I just think most of them are, and the only reason for that is because most people are heterosexual. I'm not claiming that there is a higher percentage of heterosexual molesters, simply that there are more in numbers. But if there are 90 heterosexuals for every 10 homosexuals, then there will be 90 heterosexual molesters for every 10 homosexual molesters.

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Compassionate measures? Shall we also invite the burgler to a cup of tea? Provide free prepubescent blow up dolls to the "National Pedophiles Are People Too" organization?
No. I think we should get to the source of the problem and eliminate the chance of pedophilia before pedophiles even commit a crime against a child. I do think the blow-up dolls are a good idea. At least those aren't real children. I am all for artistic (as in drawings, sculptures, anything non-sentient) child porn that doesn't involve photographing real children because that is a way for a pedophile to channel their sexuality that doesn't involve harming children. Any channel that does not involve harming children is OK in my book.

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More distortions .... knock it off. Child "ABUSE" can come in a multitude of forms, from verbal, physical, and psychological abuse to negligence and neglect. The topic here is sexual assault of children by pedophiles, and that is primarily driven by the deviate sexual appetites for young children that these predators just can't seem to constrain. That's a fact. But to me, I really don't care what twisted motives may be dancing around in these degenerate's minds ... that they are a danger to children everywhere is the real issue, and such creeps deserve no "compassionate treatment" or "consideration".
Yes, you're right. Child abuse does come in many forms. I was using the term "child abuse" to distinguish between pedophiles who are attracted to children who do not act on it and adults who may or may not be attracted to children who do sexually abuse children. I was referring specifically to sexual assault in particular. If you prefer, I can use the term "child sexual abuser" from now on.

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No, you don't agree ... you're acting again. You, and many others here have spent an inordinate amount of typing time marginalizing, distorting, diverting and making excuses. One common denominator most of you seem to have in common is self identification as homosexuals. Of course this isn't the least bit surprising, since as a collective, the homosexual community has consistently supported just about every non-traditional form of sexual "expression" you can find ... including pedophilia.
THis is about as real as it gets for me Guy. If you think this is all an act, there isn't much I can say, other than I think that you are deflecting from the real point. You disagree with me, so I must be acting. Do you realize it's possible that someone may just have another outlook on life from you, and may be just as genuine about their outlook as you?

I don't care if pedophiles are attracted to children. They can go right ahead and fantasize about children all day--as long as they don't actually hurt one single child in the process.

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Sure, many claim otherwise ... it's the same old "deny" tactic ... but your actions speak volumes, and the record couldn't be more clear and consistent. You all just like to shuck and jive when confronted.
If the only way for you to reconcile the fact that I may have a different perspective from you is to assume it's nothing but "shucking and jiving," then so be it. This is how I really feel.
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Old 09-01-2011, 08:59 AM
 
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As a homosexual, I ask that you please take back the statement about sex pervading the thoughts of homosexuals. I am gay and I do not think about sex all day. In fact, I think about sex a whole lot less than most people. Guy, that statement is just inaccurate and it hurts me that you would say something like that.
Some people are just plain vile.
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Old 09-01-2011, 09:01 AM
 
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One of the few things most liberals and conservatives can probably agree on is that Scientology is way out there. Apart from Scientologists themselves, I don't know anyone, liberal or conservative, who thinks their ideology makes any sense at all.

Scientology and liberalism have about as much in common as Scientology and conservatism--that is, pretty much, nothing.
Yet he presents a video from the "Church" of Scientology to support his anti-psychiatry rants, and doesn't appear to realise that's where it's from. How dim can you get?
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Old 09-01-2011, 09:03 AM
 
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My personal experience and research fly in the face of your theory, Guy. It's not just tactics. Just because you do not agree with my point of view doesn't mean that I am playing a game. I could just as easily accuse you of the same thing, but I know that you actually believe what you post. I really believe what I post as well.
His opinions are just ill-informed prejudiced rants.
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Old 09-01-2011, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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I've got a news flash for some of you.... contrary to the preoccupation with sex that seems to pervade every thought of homosexuals, age of consent laws were primarily conceived to protect the individual rights of a person that reached a certain age ... such as to be protected by the laws of commerce ... it was for legal protection, and was not conceived for the purpose of painting large pink bulls eyes on children's rear ends for the twisted enjoyment of sexual deviates.
"Age of consent" in this context means "age of sexual consent."

10-12 year olds couldn't sign contracts or own land or vote. But they could have sex.
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Old 09-01-2011, 11:55 AM
 
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BUt But But, who would deal with them, since after all you also have a major hate for Cops.
Racist? Hmmmm, you guys just love to hide behind that mantra now don't ya, J
Casper
Now I hate cops? Where did you get this tidbit from?

As for who would deal with them I say a .357 to the head would do the job fine.
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Old 09-01-2011, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Gone
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Now I hate cops? Where did you get this tidbit from?

As for who would deal with them I say a .357 to the head would do the job fine.
I apologize for the error and it has been retracked
Casper
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Old 09-01-2011, 01:06 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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Now THIS I agree with, and it should be much more of a crime to make such false accusations. The few who are caught just get slapped on the wrist, if anything.
If there can be such a thing as an upside to that problem it is that by and large such actions are easy to spot and thus dismiss. A person who makes such accusations in the midst of, say, a nasty divorce proceeding, is looked at with suspicion. The accusations have to be investigated, regardless, but do often end up being disproved.
It shouldn't end there but it usually does. I can't think of anything worse than being accused of being a child molester. To accuse someone of that as a spiteful tactic for winning a custody or divorce case should be more harshly dealt with.
Yea....just another service freak pedophiles have offered us. An ability for a vengeful soon to be ex who wants full custody to smear her soon to be ex husband with a hot iron. But I digress.....fathers rights and our societies trend to man bashing is a seperate issue.
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Old 09-01-2011, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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Now THIS I agree with, and it should be much more of a crime to make such false accusations. The few who are caught just get slapped on the wrist, if anything.
I beleive a person who knowingly makes a false accusation should suffer teh same criminal penalty as the falsely accused would have suffered if he had been convicted. That is the only way to reduce these vengence-inspired false charges. In the case of accusations of sex crimes it is even worse because even the charge, regarless of conviction or dismissal, can often destroy one's reputation.
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Old 09-01-2011, 04:16 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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I beleive a person who knowingly makes a false accusation should suffer teh same criminal penalty as the falsely accused would have suffered if he had been convicted. That is the only way to reduce these vengence-inspired false charges. In the case of accusations of sex crimes it is even worse because even the charge, regarless of conviction or dismissal, can often destroy one's reputation.
Agreed....across the board. The punishment idea is quite good. Since the intent was there to see an innocent person harshly punished let the false accuser suffer said punishment.
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