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Old 09-04-2011, 08:44 AM
 
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Originally Posted by mmmjv View Post
multi thousand dollar tax refunds??? Somehow I doubt that

Also, the refunds that they do get, probably a couple of hundred at best, is their money. They get it back because too much was taking out of their paychecks. That's why it's called a "refund"

This reference to fraudulent tax refunds probably involves false Earned Income Tax Credit claims. This is recognized as a problem among some sectors of the population.

People file tax returns claiming kids they don't have and collect a couple thousand dollar EITC in the form of a tax 'refund'. Because EITC is 'refundable' people can get back up to about $3,000 more than they actually paid in taxes, if they file a tax return claiming two or more kids.
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Old 09-04-2011, 08:54 AM
 
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I totally agree!

In a welfare nanny state, as this nation has turned into, those collecting government benefits, should not be able to vote.
Get off the benefits and vote your heart out.

Just curious: Should homeowners who do not own rental property be able to vote on a property tax levied specifically on rental property (i.e. a tax not levied on the homeowner's home). These homeowners are being subsidized by the taxes paid on rental property, which is a lot like collecting government benefits.
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Old 09-04-2011, 08:57 AM
 
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Wall Street doesn't have enough votes to elect anyone. The 51% who pay NO federal income tax whatsoever? They're a majority.

I've never seen any numbers on this, but I doubt this 51% casts a majority of the votes. Probably not even close.
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Old 09-04-2011, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Indiana
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I believe e. e. cummings should not have been allowed to vote
if he was getting welfare he shouldnt have been allow to vote, but i dont think the welfare nanny state was in effect back then.
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Old 09-04-2011, 09:13 AM
 
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lol. Jobs poor people create with no sort of funding or capital: Prostitution, Robbery, Begging, and revolution.

In the past three days, I have heard/seen/read a half dozen references like this ("When's the last time a poor person offered you a job?")

I'm (currently) a poor person and I'm working on a book for a specific hobby/collector/dealer market and I am budgeting $100 per month to pay someone to help with the research. Not really research, it's more like transcribing and organizing info.
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Old 09-04-2011, 09:28 AM
 
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ALEC actually uses mathmatical formulas. The GOP knows that, by passing legislation "voter fraud" restricting voting in certain demographics (students from out-of-state, and persons with no government ID) they will also be eliminating some Republicans. But the majority will be likely Dem voters.

Now I'm probably way out in left field on this one, but as a former student from out-of-state, I believe it is very important that students from out of state be able to vote where they live and pay rent most of the year, i.e. at school.

Not allowing students to vote where they live while at school only invites local policies which overregulate students, particularly in their housing, and thereby redistribute income from the students to the local nonstudents.

Having said that, it's unlikely that out-of-state students, even when allowed to vote at school, will ever again cast more than a handful of votes there. The last time they voted in large numbers at school was in the 1970s.
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Old 09-04-2011, 10:14 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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So anyone that loses their job and gets unemployment should have their voting card revoked?

Yes, if they are accepting unemployment welfare, then no vote.

Weening off the teet, is not easy.
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Old 09-04-2011, 10:19 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Fiy, don't worry, they can always get a job walking dogs to make up for the lost income. If their customers do a 1099 on them , they get to vote still. In this conservative fantasy land, there is 100 percent employment for all. Anyone can succeed in this land of plenty, so long as they are not a lazy bum.



If you were to ask me, I'd tell you that everyone from this day forward is self employed and you could be replaced tomorrow by another company offering more Professionalism, Responsibility Integrity, Dependability and Educated. So you better be good at what you do in all aspects of a relationship.
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Old 09-04-2011, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Montgomery Village
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Wow. Tell that to my neighbor's college-age kid who mows lawns, plants landscaping, shovels snow (over the holidays), walks dogs, and performs handyman chores to support himself and put himself through school.

Some people are industrious, and have initiative, drive, and personal responsibility. Others simply shove their hands out for more freebies.
Good for him, I see he's offering services. Yeah, I guess all the poor folk who are leeching off the system can get up and start being "Industrious" and create their own jobs. Hell, it must be that easy, right? There are so many jobs out there waiting to be created by poor people so they can get off the government dole. What a bunch of lazy b*stards!
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Old 09-04-2011, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Montgomery Village
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In the past three days, I have heard/seen/read a half dozen references like this ("When's the last time a poor person offered you a job?")

I'm (currently) a poor person and I'm working on a book for a specific hobby/collector/dealer market and I am budgeting $100 per month to pay someone to help with the research. Not really research, it's more like transcribing and organizing info.
Good for you, my comment was more tounge-in-cheek than anything else.
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