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Old 09-20-2011, 01:30 PM
 
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The truth is not your strong suit is it? Global warming is occurring twice as fast in the Arctic than anywhere else on Earth. Some regions have already warmed by 2.5C.

The last time Pacific species were able to migrate to the Atlantic through the Arctic was two to three million years ago...You call that frequently? I don't.
And spinning fantasies is your strong suit I see....

Then why is it Santa has just ordered larger space heaters?
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Old 09-20-2011, 01:43 PM
 
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The truth is not your strong suit is it? Global warming is occurring twice as fast in the Arctic than anywhere else on Earth. Some regions have already warmed by 2.5C.

The last time Pacific species were able to migrate to the Atlantic through the Arctic was two to three million years ago...You call that frequently? I don't.
Provide some support for your claims please.

Any citations we can discuss that show your "truth" or are we simply supposed to bow down to your claims as if they were handed down divinely?

I am interested in your "regions" claim. Which regions are you speaking of? How have they warmed? What is the cause of the warming and how does a "region" warming translate to a "Global position"?
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Old 09-20-2011, 03:04 PM
 
Location: France, that's in Europe
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I am interested in your "regions" claim. Which regions are you speaking of? How have they warmed? What is the cause of the warming and how does a "region" warming translate to a "Global position"?
See GISTEMP plot here: Data.GISS: GISS Surface Temperature Analysis
You can see that some areas are warming more rapidly that others: the bottom plot of average anomaly by latitude makes it clearer.

The global anomaly is calculated by averaging the regional anomalies. What did you expect?

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Old 09-20-2011, 03:47 PM
 
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See GISTEMP plot here: Data.GISS: GISS Surface Temperature Analysis
You can see that some areas are warming more rapidly that others: the bottom plot of average anomaly by latitude makes it clearer.

The global anomaly is calculated by averaging the regional anomalies. What did you expect?

Now, do this. Go grab the raw data used from those regions and evaluate each station location, their temp values and their relational values.

Then please explain to me how they go about getting the averages for the region that they report.

Or rather, is it possible to obtain the data and methodology for that Analysis?
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Old 09-20-2011, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Sarasota, Florida
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N.A.S.A. Global Viewer>>>>>

Global Ice Viewer
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Old 09-20-2011, 04:25 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The truth is not your strong suit is it? Global warming is occurring twice as fast in the Arctic than anywhere else on Earth. Some regions have already warmed by 2.5C.

The last time Pacific species were able to migrate to the Atlantic through the Arctic was two to three million years ago...You call that frequently? I don't.


Look at the magnetic pole movement since it has been recorded.
Overlay the movement of the ice field, with the magnetic pole movement.

Wonder why Russia and Europe are getting cooler on average?
From your own research, which way are the poles moving? Or did you know they moved?
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Old 09-20-2011, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Look at the magnetic pole movement since it has been recorded.
Overlay the movement of the ice field, with the magnetic pole movement.

Wonder why Russia and Europe are getting cooler on average?
From your own research, which way are the poles moving? Or did you know they moved?
Of course I know the north pole has been moving towards Siberia, but how exactly do you think that explains the decrease in the total arctic ice sheet, which is the topic of this thread?

You guys remind me of the intransigent religious...You are going to believe what you want regardless of how much the evidence tells you that you are wrong, right up to and including making up conspiracy theories
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Old 09-20-2011, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Provide some support for your claims please.

Any citations we can discuss that show your "truth" or are we simply supposed to bow down to your claims as if they were handed down divinely?

I am interested in your "regions" claim. Which regions are you speaking of? How have they warmed? What is the cause of the warming and how does a "region" warming translate to a "Global position"?
I provided a link to the information in the post. It's not my problem if you are too lazy to explore it. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/ear...ion-years.html
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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I provided a link to the information in the post. It's not my problem if you are too lazy to explore it. Warming oceans cause largest movement of marine species in two million years - Telegraph
This is the original press release for the finding:

http://www.clamer.eu/images/stories/...2011-06-27.pdf
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Old 09-20-2011, 05:49 PM
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Look at the magnetic pole movement since it has been recorded.
Overlay the movement of the ice field, with the magnetic pole movement.

Wonder why Russia and Europe are getting cooler on average?
From your own research, which way are the poles moving? Or did you know they moved?
The magnetic poles are moving. The geographic pole isn't. I'm not sure why the magnetic pole is relevant.

Russia and Europe is colder on average? Any data for that?
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